Big Problems w/ My Little XDs
This is a discussion on Big Problems w/ My Little XDs within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I bought an XD9 SC for my wife. Shoots great, except she really has a problem working the slide due to spring tension. It fits ...
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July 23rd, 2012 06:11 PM
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I bought an XD9 SC for my wife. Shoots great, except she really has a problem working the slide due to spring tension. It fits me a bit more comfortable than my Gen 4 G19. The XD sits in the night stand on her side of the bed unused. She prefers my LCP.
Regardless, when I plop down the cash for a name-brand firearm, it is my expectation that it works right out of the box. A malfunctioning handgun you intend to stake your life on is like a cheating spouse - can you really trust either one again? Of course, thats just me.
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July 23rd, 2012 06:11 PM
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July 23rd, 2012 06:44 PM
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I started a thread about a week ago and I had the same issues. Only I never personally had the issues when I shot the gun, my brother did and the issues are identical to yours. I opened up the firing pin block and to my surprise there was oil and gunk everywhere! I dont know about you but when I got mine it was oddly over oiled. That could have been part of the issue but nevertheless on the XD forums they talk about the exact same issues you have and most of them sent it back and they work fine now. I would try getting all the oil out of the firing pin channel and then oil the slide really generously. I noticed that a few times when my brother shot it, it was just ever so slightly out of battery, enough to cause the light primer strikes I assume.
I would try that and then if the problem persists, give springfield a call and send it in.
I also noticed that before breaking down and cleaning the firing pin channel, the pin would move slightly and when pushed down it would feel "stuck" if you pulled up
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July 23rd, 2012 08:08 PM
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On the XD forum there also is a thread regarding light strikes. Shows some pictures of the firing pin and some impact type damage on a collar. It is a new gun so maybe this is a small bug to be worked out. None of this has deterred my interest in the gun. I will just wait until they have been out a while. I have used Springfield customer service and it was a very good experience.
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July 23rd, 2012 11:10 PM
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Just got my Xds last week and I am having the same problems with the light strikes. 8 out of 100 rounds failed to fire. I have cleaned it up and am going back to the range tomorrow to see what happens. I will give Springfield a chance to make it right if need be but this is my first Springfield so needless to say I am less than impressed. I like the feel and size of the gun but I dont trust it at all and that will take a few hundred rounds without any problems. I own and have owned several Glocks through the years and have never had one fail to go bang. Looks like for the time being the G33 will stay by my side.
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July 23rd, 2012 11:24 PM
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Did you disassmble and clean the gun beofre going to the range , have read on the xd forum, that the firing pin channel is oiled heavily, and causes that problem, just something i read ...thought i would pass it along....
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July 26th, 2012 04:04 PM
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I'm just waiting for the Kahr CM45. That will be in my waistband the month it comes out! I love all the Kahrs I've owned and would recommend them to everyone. They make the guns we only wish Glock would make as far as a reliable, thin, lightweight carry piece.
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July 26th, 2012 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by
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With that said, I bought the supposed gun of the year, the XDs...
Hmm, don't know who has been touting that but my money's on The Shield to be the gun of the year (and it has the sales to back it up).
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July 26th, 2012 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Get extra power magazine springs and see if that solves the problem. I had a similar problem with my XD45 and so have several of m fellow Officers. Changed mag springs and problem was solved. Weak mag springs are the XD's Achilles Heal and is well documented...
I can't see what this has to do with the OP's light strikes.
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August 23rd, 2012 11:30 PM
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Hey Guys, In regard to the FTF and Light Strike issue:
This is due to a few factors. The XDS is a completely different gun than all previous XD and XDM models. It is a small frame 45 with tight tolerances. Any limp wristing in the weapon will cause a Failure to Fire. The light strike that you are seeing, are usually off center. This is due to the slide not returning fully into battery. If you pay close attention to how you are shooting, and check between each round, you might find that the slide is just slightly out of battery. The gun will still reset the trigger, and it will still fire, but not completely hit the primer.
Solution:
As per Springfield Armory: Clean the weapon, including the striker chamber. Get all that gunk out. Then Lube the slide rails, a light coating of oil on the barrel, the top of the barrel, on the slide where the barrel touches the side wall of the slide, the feed ramp... basically any metal on metal friction points. The one thing I noticed on this weapon is that it tends to like more rather than less lubrication. DO NOT LUBE THE STRIKER CHANNEL.
Try a thumbs forward grip and make sure that recoil isn't getting the best of you. This should solve your issues.
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August 23rd, 2012 11:45 PM
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Every XDS I have seen came completely dry of lube or oil.
Mine and a friend was completely bone dry. they both fired and was completely accurate.
steve
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August 23rd, 2012 11:48 PM
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I don't post much on here, I lurk a ton. But I've got an XDs, have had it since late May, my serial number starts with a "5" so I know it's not one of the first issued, but it is the first one available in my area to my knowledge.
I've fired in excess of 1000 rounds out of mine, not one FTF or light strike in the entire lot, Defense ammo, +P, Reloads, and some IDPA light loads - This gun is my EDC, and I'll tell you I am impressed with mine. Not a single issue, and it gets cleaned once a week by hand, and once a month in my sonic cleaner.
I did pull it out of the box and clean it with CLP, I use an air compressor set at 25psi to blow out the excess cleaner and oil before I reassemble. With several other SA weapons in my collection, I will say not a single one has had issues from my 5.25 Comp 9mm (over 10,000 rounds) to my 1911 GI A1 (in excess of 16,000 rounds) - no issues, the 1911 gets a new recoil spring every 3500 rounds if it needs it or not.
We shoot a metric F ton in this household, one of the benefits of duel income no kids, and a wife that likes to run brass as much as I do. We shoot like clock work once a week, and more often than not twice a week. I think your issue could be chalked up to a bad apple, and IMO you cut the process short by not taking advantage of the exceptional warranty and service available through Springfield.
For each bad example you find, you will also find 30 people that don't have any issues, and never post about how great this gun really is. Game changer for me, I truly hope others dont base an opinion of this stellar weapon off your experience.
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August 24th, 2012 01:18 AM
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Yeah I dont suspect a problem with the gun itself but instead the user since my brother was getting all the FTF and light primer strikes and I could not get a single one to this day with about 700 rounds through it with me shooting
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August 24th, 2012 02:09 AM
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When I first bought my Ruger SR9c a few months ago, I took it out to the range and put about a 100 rounds through it. I had all sorts of FTFs. I took it back to the store first chance I got. One of the guys that works there took it out back to their berm and fired 2 or 3 magazines off without a single issue. Turns out it was just user error. After learning a better grip and stance, I never had a problem with it.
Now of course, the XDs and the SR9c are two different weapons, but the situation may be the same for some people that are experiencing these malfunctions.
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August 24th, 2012 03:03 AM
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I've got an XD 9 subcompact, XD 45 compact, and an XDm 45 compact... no less than 3000 rounds across them with zero failures. They are some of the best guns I own, period. Sounds like the usual 'new gun' woes to me. We've seen Kimber and Glock pull this in the past few years too, so nobody is immune. I've been looking at the XDs for a while, but I'm giving it another year before I seriously consider biting... I have too many on the list to buy, lol.
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August 24th, 2012 05:40 AM
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Sucks that you have had troubles,give springfield a chance to make it right .I have delt with their customer service dept over a small issue with my 1911 and they did a good job.As far as the XD goes i bought a XD45 the original design back in 2007 i think it was and the only time it has failed to fire is when i fail to seat the mag correctly on reloads.
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