Sig Sauer P238 380 Cal. Best way to carry loaded?
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July 30th, 2012 01:26 PM
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Sig Sauer P238 380 Cal. Best way to carry loaded?
I purchased a Sig Sauer P238 380 Cal. and would like to know how's the best way to carry it loaded? I read - CONDITION ONE - is "cocked and locked." Magazine & chamber are loaded, the hammer is cocked & thumb safety ON. To shot the pistol, just push the safety down to the "FIRE" position and pull the trigger. They say the firing pin has a block in case of drop and will not fire unless you pull the trigger. (CONDITION TWO - is fully loaded (both magazine and chamber) with hammer down on the loaded chamber. The thumb safety is always OFF, but the rebounding firing pin does not touch the primer and the firing pin safety prevents its doing so, even if the pistol is dropped. To shoot the pistol, manually cock the hammer and pull the trigger. There is a half-cock notch to catch the hammer if it slips, as long as the trigger is not pulled at the time. - CONDITION THREE - is loaded magazine, but empty chamber. Thumb safety is always OFF. To shoot pistol slide must first be racked to chamber a cartridge, then pull trigger. What do you think is the best way to carry?
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July 30th, 2012 01:26 PM
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July 30th, 2012 01:29 PM
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Condition one but not in a pocket.
I don't carry a gun to look for or start a fight. I carry one to finish a fight I never wanted to be in.
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July 30th, 2012 01:29 PM
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Depends on how you feel comfortable. Pick a method and train with it. I would advise one of the two with a round in the chamber. In a life threatening situation you may not have time to rack the slide.
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July 30th, 2012 02:07 PM
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Get a good quality holster and carry in condition 1. When I carry my P238 equinox it is in condition 1. I don't carry it in the pocket tho.
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July 30th, 2012 03:12 PM
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Condition One in an appropriate holster.
Nothing wrong with C1 pocket carry IMHO and long as you use a pocket holster that covers the entire trigger guard and the safety level AND you don't put anything else in that pocket.
Congratulations on your new P238... it's an exceptional pistol.
If this is your first "1911 style" Single Action pistol, I've only got three words for ya: practice, practice, practice.
Develop that muscle memory to disengage the safety as you're acquiring the sight picture.... not before! You can drill on this with an unloaded weapon (double and triple check!). It's OK to dry-fire a P238 with or without a snap-cap, though many prefer "with".
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July 30th, 2012 05:56 PM
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When I carry my Mustang Pocketlites (same gun as the P238, basically, but by Colt) I carry them Condition 1, either in a Renegade ankle rig or a pocket holster.
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July 30th, 2012 06:24 PM
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Condition one- cocked and locked in a pocket holster that covers the already strong thumb safety. Don't know why some are so afraid to carry this firearm the way it was designed to be carried. I've been carrying my P238 that way for almost two years in shorts and jeans. Never a problem. Never heard of a single incident of anyone shooting their do-dads because of condition one carry in front pocket.
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July 30th, 2012 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Never heard of a single incident of anyone shooting their do-dads because of condition one carry in front pocket.
But if it did, with a .380, you'd probably miss the jewels anyway.
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July 30th, 2012 09:06 PM
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I carry mine in condition one with a good holster that has a thumb break that sits in front of the hammer just in case. Galco makes an ankle rig that is very similar. I think that is the best way to carry the pistol, always ready.
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July 30th, 2012 10:07 PM
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Cocked and locked in a pocket holster. Never had it come off safe, no problems. Guys carry 1911s all the time the same way, only pointed at the cheek of the ass and the hamstring rather than the kneecap. My 238 has never and will never be pointed at the place no man wants to be shot.
Kneecapping oneself would be enough, don't you think? I suspect that little 380 would feel like a 300 H&H.
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July 30th, 2012 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I purchased a Sig Sauer P238 380 Cal. and would like to know how's the best way to carry it loaded? I read - CONDITION ONE - is "cocked and locked." Magazine & chamber are loaded, the hammer is cocked & thumb safety ON. To shot the pistol, just push the safety down to the "FIRE" position and pull the trigger. They say the firing pin has a block in case of drop and will not fire unless you pull the trigger. (CONDITION TWO - is fully loaded (both magazine and chamber) with hammer down on the loaded chamber. The thumb safety is always OFF, but the rebounding firing pin does not touch the primer and the firing pin safety prevents its doing so, even if the pistol is dropped. To shoot the pistol, manually cock the hammer and pull the trigger. There is a half-cock notch to catch the hammer if it slips, as long as the trigger is not pulled at the time. - CONDITION THREE - is loaded magazine, but empty chamber. Thumb safety is always OFF. To shoot pistol slide must first be racked to chamber a cartridge, then pull trigger. What do you think is the best way to carry?
Didn't know you could carry in condition two
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July 30th, 2012 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by
imchud
Didn't know you could carry in condition two

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Only if you clench.
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July 30th, 2012 11:45 PM
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Condition One in a quality holster.
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August 1st, 2012 03:42 PM
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When I carry mine its in condition 2. I just feel a little safer that way, just as easy to use your thumb to cock the hammer as it is to flip the safety.......well almost !
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August 1st, 2012 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by
ron54
When I carry mine its in condition 2. I just feel a little safer that way, just as easy to use your thumb to cock the hammer as it is to flip the safety.......well almost !
If you're comfortable with the extra time involved in making the pistol ready-to-shoot, that's just fine.
Regardless of what we do or say, your level of comfort is your level of comfort... carry it accordingly, carry it always and carry it in good health :)
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