So... Guess what's going back to S&W

So... Guess what's going back to S&W

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    So... Guess what's going back to S&W

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    for the EXACT same problem it went back to S&W for the first time.


    Yep... That's right. My Jframe. Action froze up. Took it apart and the trigger lever fell out. EXACTLY the same thing that happened the first time. I am going to demand my money back so that I can buy a LCR. I am officially done with Smith.
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    Impossible. Everyone knows that revolvers are infallible. :)

    In all seriousness, that stinks, and I'm sorry you got stuck with a lemon. I hope S&W makes it right.
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    The LCR is a better gun anyway. Lighter, and a better trigger. Plus, you can get an LCR from the factory with a front night sight.

    Older S&W's are ok. I don't trust any of the junk they are putting out nowadays. Might as well buy a Taurus.
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    Sucks Rollo. Sorry that happened to you. Maybe I am lucky, but my 442 has lived up to the positive hype. Let's us know what takes its place.
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    Man that bites, i have burned a lot of ammo through my little airweight, but is an older one, hope smith makes it right....that is a good reminder that not gun, auto or wheel is infallible, i have even had a problem with a pump shotgun..... sigh...none are perfect, but you do get what ya pay for and you should make them do the right thing...good luck..
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    Who says lightening can't strike the same place twice. I'm not sure what you're doing to all of these guns...are you dry firing them to death with no snap caps? That's just strange. I've got 50+ year old smith snubs and a 442 that's 4 years old and I shoot the snot out of both of them. No problem.

    So far, the Ruger SP101 seems to be the only Rollo-proof gun. You might want to go back to it. Given your experience with the Airweight smith, I'm not sure I'd trust a composite frame revolver if I were you. I'm just sayin.
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    Well it really sucks when you buy something that is represented as a protect your life with this product and right out of the box something as reliably simple as a revolver is ... defective?? And they fault pistols over revolvers EH??

    You send it back for repair and it still isn't reliable??? Totally unexceptionable!!! And we're talking S&W. Not that Ruger can't have an issue ~ like I say nothing man-made is 110%, but a Ruger is the only revolver I'd ever buy.

    When ever you read the specks on some factory ammo manufactures information I never read "Do Not Use This Stuff In A Ruger ( sometimes maybe a Blackhawk ) !!" but they do mention "Do Not Use This In Others ~ like S&W, Taurus, and some others too.

    I've been anxiously waiting for my LGS to get in the new S&W/M&P Shields. I was by there yesterday and he told me that in S&W's hast to meet their demands they hastily released a bad defective batch. WOW now what??

    So I realize nothing man-made is 110% perfect but come on ...

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    Holy cow, NO WAY! Rollo, don't ever touch one of my guns! Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPFOR View Post
    Impossible. Everyone knows that revolvers are infallible. :)
    Exactly what I was going to say - in jest only of course just as you did.

    It's inconvenient to have to return a gun to the manufacturer, but twice is down right annoying. S&W will get it right; hang in there. A year from now, and probably much less, it will be as if it never happened.
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    Rollo, is it true you can demolish a wrecking ball with a rubber mallet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BugDude View Post
    Who says lightening can't strike the same place twice. I'm not sure what you're doing to all of these guns...are you dry firing them to death with no snap caps? That's just strange. I've got 50+ year old smith snubs and a 442 that's 4 years old and I shoot the snot out of both of them. No problem.

    So far, the Ruger SP101 seems to be the only Rollo-proof gun. You might want to go back to it. Given your experience with the Airweight smith, I'm not sure I'd trust a composite frame revolver if I were you. I'm just sayin.
    This one has has probably a 1000 dry fires though it but with snap caps. And... If a gun won't hold up to a thousand snap cap dry fires I think it has no business being trusted. Actually, My G26 and G19 have been Rollo proof as well. I've considered the implications of a composite frame revolver... I also considered going back to the 101... The problem was I wanted something lighter. We shall see. I'm going to give it some thought today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    Rollo, is it true you can demolish a wrecking ball with a rubber mallet?
    I doubt I would need the mallet :)
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    Rollo - You're going to have to ask yourself, at this point, if you will ever really trust a S&W J frame. If the answer is no, then you're probably better off getting a LCR, than having that nagging doubt in the back of your mind.

    No disrespect to the J frame lovers out there, but you cannot deny the lack of luck that Rollo has experienced. Maybe S&W has a bad lot of frames out there - who knows. But something ain't right.
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    I don't care what people carry. My only question is how many other people are having this issue with the j frame? Could it just be a lemon that Rollo got?
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    Man I feelnfornyou Rollo. Butndonthenrightnthing andngetbyourself an LCR.
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