The Truth: Hi Point Firearms
This is a discussion on The Truth: Hi Point Firearms within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by zonker1986
I did, and exactly what about Zamak am I supposed to be impressed by...and why are you so impressed?
View Poll Results: Are Hi Point weapons acceptable for self defense
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Yes they are fine as is
No they are not acceptable
yes but could use definite improvements
No but with a few adjustments are a fit weapon
August 28th, 2012 07:42 PM
Originally Posted by zonker1986
This reminds me that the ancients used to use both copper & tin for various things & then found out that adding a little tin to copper made bronze. A metal strong enough at the time to have an epoch named after it. My point here is do not discount it because the majority of the alloy is zinc.
August 28th, 2012 07:42 PM
August 28th, 2012 08:37 PM
I sure have seen a mountain of broken and shattered Zinc die-cast in my day. Hopefully the Zamak is a lot better.
If it is then that's a good thing.
My primary concern (other than the top heavy aspect and the increased bulk of the top end which are a negative) is for the safety of the shooter/owner because (believe it or not) I do not want any shooters getting hurt (even Hi-point owners) due to inferior materials being used for pistol slides.
Which has happened with some of the other smaller cheap semi-autos that have sported non steel Zinc based slides.
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August 28th, 2012 11:24 PM
Funny, alot of the negative comments I have heard (read) about hipoints, are very similar to the ones I heard when Glocks first came out. My father, rest his soul, would never have owned a glock, he had NO faith in anything that "plastic". He drove gas guzzling 60's cars because anything made after 73 was "crap". I have adopted his philosophy of always get more than you pay for if at all possible, I don;'t buy anything based on NAME. IMHO, HiPoints are "more than you pay for", I have no experience with the 9mm or 380 (again IMHO they are kinda pointless); 380 is a debatable round for defense (at least in some eyes), it is more suited for a compact BUG; which HP's are NOT, plus I feel the 380 rounds lack the power to effectively use the blowback design, perhaps some of the lower power 9mm rounds are the same. With 9mm's their stong point (from my view point) is capacity and light weight power, HPs are weak on those two points. The 40 and 45's are good ta go in my book and I actually want one of them, at least the 45 if not both...
On a lighter note, my wife LIKED the look of the OD green one in my hand, but as I have found out, my hand tends to make even the largest soda look small; I routinely drink my diet coke from 2 liter bottle. Her comment was, "Da**, that gun LOOKS FREAKIN HUGE!"; most weapons look like toys in my hand...
September 7th, 2012 04:11 AM
Apparently many of the posters didn't read the original question. Just because you say something is cheap or unrefined doesn't effect its ability to be reliable when and if it comes down to it. I own a CF380 and I have never once had an ejecting or feeding issue. Anything mass produced including your beloved Glocks and whatnot can suffer from any problems associated with a snag here and there. Not to say anything bad about Glocks or any other big brand it just makes me laugh when someone asks for an unbiased opinion and receives more then half of just that. Read the title THE TRUTH. Not well it cost 150 bucks and has composite materials on non stress points so it sux. The truth is that if you havent owned one then read and learn because your opinion is not warranted. I vote acceptable!
September 7th, 2012 08:23 AM
Originally Posted by gemer84
Thankfully, discernment is possible with the human mind. One doesn't have to sample a fresh steaming dog excrement in order to know that its flavor is inferior.
“No possible rapidity of fire can atone for habitual carelessness of aim with the first shot.”
Theodore Roosevelt, The Wilderness Hunter, 1893
September 7th, 2012 10:38 AM
Originally Posted by gemer84
It's not often that I quote myself, but to reiterate that many of us are unfortunately quite qualified in our assessment. (It's the dog poo of handguns)
Originally Posted by WHEC724
'Clinging to my guns and religion
September 7th, 2012 11:01 AM
I love when the hardcore HiPointers show up out of nowhere with a zero post count. Are they paid shills or are they just hardcore HiPoint zealots trolling the internet for a fresh HP thread?
The truth is this, I can pound a screw into a piece of wood with a hammer but that doesn't make it a good tool for that job.
September 7th, 2012 12:02 PM
Just haven't been able to warm up to that buttstock mag pouch. My spare mags for the 4095 are carried in a dedicated fanny pack.
Originally Posted by lowercase
I might fabricate a little pad for the cheek area, though. Thanks for the kick-start to a project!
The maximum effective range of an excuse is zero meters.
September 12th, 2012 06:00 PM
Originally Posted by atctimmy
I have never owned any of the Hi Point Pistols...but actually have been doing some research on the 9mm HC-9 since you can now register firearms in the City of Chicago...and I'm looking for a plinker for my wife when I'm not at home (I'm new to law enforcement in Chicago and only have my duty pistol atm.) and I have my Sig with me at work. And found this thread/site via web searches.
Now..my first and only carbine purchase was in the mid-90s....and it was the Hi Point 9mm...I think it is the 995 model...And my first pistol was the Bersa .380 Thunder....the guy in the gun store where I got them both had said I should get a Hi Point 9mm as well as the carbine, but they were out at the time...so I grabbed the Bersa, as my agency wasn't allowing us to carry the 9mm yet.
I have never had any problems with it and it is the perfect low cost Truck gun. I've thrown cheap 9mm ball and expensive Hydroshock and Winchester and Federal through it over the past 15 years and never have had a problem with FTF or FTE. And like everyone else here my only real beef with the carbine is the small cap mag it comes with, and the fact that by design it seems to not be able to take any 3rd party extended cap mags..although I've heard rumors of 15 round magazines appearing at gun shows and rumors that they supposedly can take a 15 round glock mag.
The nice thing about the Hi Point carbine And pistols though is that if you have the same Caliber pistol and Carbine...the magazines will work for both.
I'm currently in the process of sending my Carbine to Ohio for a 15 year checkup/rebuild....the Warranty is great...no questions asked when i explained it was over 10 years old and I just wanted to have it checked out. They said they will just rebuild it with the new receiver, 2 new mag's, etc...and ship it back.
I will never give up the Hi Point Carbine.
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