Broke in the SIG - Brass Over Steel?
This is a discussion on Broke in the SIG - Brass Over Steel? within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Finally got to fire proper ammo through my new SIG 2022 yesterday (.40 caliber).
My first time with it, I used steel jacketed TulAmmo from ...
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September 10th, 2012 04:48 PM
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Broke in the SIG - Brass Over Steel?
Finally got to fire proper ammo through my new SIG 2022 yesterday (.40 caliber).
My first time with it, I used steel jacketed TulAmmo from Wally World. The gun performed awful! Empty rounds ejecting into my face and plenty of stove pipe jams.
Yesterday I put 100 rounds of brass jacketed ammo through it without a hiccup and no brass in my face.
What a difference brass over steel made. I know steel doesn't expand like brass does. I'm assuming that was the problem.
I was able to shoot good groups at 25 yards and even my son (12) and his buddy (13) had a ball shooting it.
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September 10th, 2012 04:48 PM
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September 10th, 2012 06:49 PM
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While some folks have good luck with steel, I simply choose to not bother with it. I don't mind paying a little more for quality brands, even if it's just for my own peace of mind.
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September 10th, 2012 06:54 PM
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I reload about all my ammo, so on the rare occasions I buy factory ammo, I'm certainly not paying for throw-away steel cases. My guess is the real problem is crappy powder at minimal power rather than the fault of the cases themselves. But now you know what works and what doesn't.

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September 10th, 2012 06:55 PM
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I don't mess with the steel stuff.
I have a very strict gun control policy: if there's a gun around, I want to be in control of it.
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September 10th, 2012 10:09 PM
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September 10th, 2012 10:20 PM
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Give me brass cases any day.
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September 10th, 2012 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by
Brad426
I don't mess with the steel stuff.

Originally Posted by
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Me neither.
Me neither.
Stop whining and go make a difference!
If you think that I may be talking to you, then I am.
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September 10th, 2012 11:14 PM
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Brass is easier on the gun and magazines. Cheap ammo is just that...cheap. Bulk packs of Remington, Winchester, and other name brand, brass cased ammo is not much more than the steel stuff. Also, check for private party sales - people may have sold off ther gun(s) in a particular caliber and are selling what ammo they have at greatly reduced prices.
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September 11th, 2012 01:02 AM
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Brass allows more flexibility. The shell expands and contracts back. Steel is less flexible and may jam more easily. Factory federal/WWB are not much more than steel. My local gun range doesn't even allow steel case ammo.
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September 11th, 2012 07:06 AM
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TULA is low end fithy ammo,wont touch the stuff
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September 11th, 2012 07:59 AM
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Bought some Tula for a SIG238 and it wouldn't fire AT ALL. I tried a variety of things with that steel junk and it never fired. Worried I loaded a variety of good ammo and it ate it all. The Tula 45 ran through my FNP fine but I'll never buy it again.
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September 11th, 2012 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by
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Brass allows more flexibility. The shell expands and contracts back. Steel is less flexible and may jam more easily. Factory federal/WWB are not much more than steel. My local gun range doesn't even allow steel case ammo.
It probably has more to do with selling the cases as brass scrape than the poor quality. Brass cases with steel cases mixed in have to be sold as "dirty"--thus a lower price.

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September 11th, 2012 12:41 PM
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It was a lesson well learned...
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September 12th, 2012 10:54 AM
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When steel cased ammo was roughly half the cost of brass, I shot a lot of it. Now that it's only a buck or two cheaper per box, I don't bother with it at all. I would have no qualms about running it in an AK or SKS though. Some guns were made to run on the stuff.
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September 12th, 2012 02:14 PM
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I simply won't put any steel cased rounds through any of my firearms other than my AK47 which was designed for it. Cheap ammo can likely cost you in repairs and downtime at the range. I know many use it in everything with no issues. That day will come and it could very well effect the reliability of your sidearm. It is what it is. Wally World sells a lot of stuff. Some due to popular demand. Go figure.
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