Kimber 1911s not working out for SWAT cops.

This is a discussion on Kimber 1911s not working out for SWAT cops. within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I've read a recent post where the LAPD is having problems with issued SIS pistols as well. I'm no 1911 expert by far but there ...

Page 3 of 7 FirstFirst 1234567 LastLast
Results 31 to 45 of 97
Like Tree76Likes

Thread: Kimber 1911s not working out for SWAT cops.

  1. #31
    Distinguished Member Array clarkston_cz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Lewis-Clark Valley
    Posts
    1,440
    I've read a recent post where the LAPD is having problems with issued SIS pistols as well.

    I'm no 1911 expert by far but there are plenty of other brands out there for SWAT or line officers.,
    like the...

    DAN WESSON SPECIALIST> any MIM?



    The 230 gr. Gold Dot would be an ideal load or a 5 inch 1911.

    It Would be my choice (but in Double Tap mode ) for any 1911 that I'd carry.


    The 230 BD is pretty wicked looking, as it's just shy of a +p rating, and should perform as well as any .45 load can on the streets.



    I do hope that dept. can get some good 1911s in those holsters.
    oneshot likes this.
    www.czforum.com



    Go RED SOX!

  2. Remove Ads

  3. #32
    Member Array MikeyF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Lexington, Kentucky
    Posts
    117
    Maybe Kimber should outsource the casting job to Ruger? They seem to have it figured out.

  4. #33
    VIP Member Array CLASS3NH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Bob from Southern New Hampshire
    Posts
    4,581
    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorblade View Post
    Forgings do have much better mechanical properties than castings. Usually when someone switches to a casting from a previously forged part it's almost always to get cost out of the product.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using Tapatalk 2
    Exactly my thought process. BTW, I do own a couple Kimbers (one is on my Avitar, a Pro CDP but a Early CDP with melt down traetment like a used bar of soap) and a couple older Customs. Take a look at the barrels of the NEW IN BOX Kimbers, meaning the ones on the Dealers shelf. You'll see the barrels are already rusted. Geeeeeesh that burns my butt, cuz I know they're using cheap steel.
    Why Waltz when you can Rock-N-Roll

  5. #34
    Member Array tricolordad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    New Richmond, Wisconsin
    Posts
    490
    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    Ford discontinued the Crown Vic and the Charger actually costs less than the new Ford Interceptor or Chevy Caprice. Only the Imapala is coming in under the Charger, or at least that's what our local SO is paying.

    As for the STI Eagle, it has about the same MSRP as any higher end Kimber @ $1,963.69, actually the Kimber TLE RL II has an MSRP almost $1K less than that STI @ $1,149.00.


    And yes, $2000 guns can and do malfunction.
    . All law enforcement and military can obtain quality new and used firearms at greatly reduced prices. For example, my STI cost me only $855 NEW about 5 years ago. I don't need a kimber, as I shoot the gun and its not a showpiece. The m9 works out great for practical purposes. It's a less expensive option which had proven its worth in combat. Argue all you want, I see no reason for the taxpayer to fork out extra so a cop can have the sports car and showpiece gun without having to pay for it. Unemployment is at 8% nationally, but how many no longer qualify for benfits? The real count around here is close to 20%. Give us a break and let us catch up already...

  6. #35
    JD
    JD is offline
    Administrator
    Array JD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Central Iowa
    Posts
    19,212
    Quote Originally Posted by tricolordad View Post
    . All law enforcement and military can obtain quality new and used firearms at greatly reduced prices. For example, my STI cost me only $855 NEW about 5 years ago. I don't need a kimber, as I shoot the gun and its not a showpiece. The m9 works out great for practical purposes. It's a less expensive option which had proven its worth in combat. Argue all you want, I see no reason for the taxpayer to fork out extra so a cop can have the sports car and showpiece gun without having to pay for it. Unemployment is at 8% nationally, but how many no longer qualify for benfits? The real count around here is close to 20%. Give us a break and let us catch up already...
    Exactly, which eliminates the price point (which was still less than your STI at normal pricing) regarding the Kimber, the dept probably paid $650 to $700 (or less) for the gun, depending on what model.


    As for the cars, again....the Charger is probably the best option $$$ wise for a replacement to the NO LONGER AVAILABLE Crown Vic. The Impala comes in less, but it lacks the power that even the Crown Vic had.

  7. #36
    VIP Member Array old grunt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Georgia
    Posts
    2,019
    I'm going to go HUG my two Colts made in the 80's! Just saying......................
    "We deal in lead friend">Steve McQueen The Magnificent Seven
    82d Abn(1983-86)OIF 2007-08
    Glock 19&26/ Colt Gov't & OM/Ruger SP101
    Retired NYS LEO / NRA Life Member
    Still Love Ya Sarah !
    "no kidding,gun slinging,spurs hitting the floor"

  8. #37
    Moderator
    Array bmcgilvray's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    9,980
    I was just about to say fundamentally the same thing, old grunt.

    Was going to phrase it: "Colts work."
    “No possible rapidity of fire can atone for habitual carelessness of aim with the first shot.”

    Theodore Roosevelt, The Wilderness Hunter, 1893

  9. #38
    Member Array Indio's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    KS
    Posts
    111
    Quote Originally Posted by clarkston_cz View Post
    DAN WESSON SPECIALIST> any MIM?
    No sir!

  10. #39
    VIP Member Array ghost tracker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Ky Backwoods
    Posts
    4,356
    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorblade View Post
    Forgings do have much better mechanical properties than castings. Usually when someone switches to a casting from a previously forged part it's almost always to get cost out of the product.
    Whoa! Broad sweeping generalities have much better opinion-warping influences than does reality. What was once true regarding forged vs. cast is no longer quite so black & white. Today when someone switches to a casting from a previously forged part it's almost always because the casting more efficiently & effectively matches a new manufacturing process. Yes, usually that eventually means a lower price-point (well-after the VERY HIGH cost of the new manufacturing process is amortized) but very few well-managed manufacturers risk their quality reputation for ANY amount of per-part price reduction.

    And let's not confuse the MIM process with a casting process. MIM is much more akin to the injection molding of plastics to create parts that are difficult/expensive to machine. A casting process (almost) always includes subsequent machining to create the final part. Very different animals.
    There are only TWO kinds of people in this world; those who describe the world as filled with two kinds of people...and those who don't.

  11. #40
    Senior Member Array Vaquero 45's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Indiana
    Posts
    882
    Quote Originally Posted by tricolordad View Post
    . All law enforcement and military can obtain quality new and used firearms at greatly reduced prices. For example, my STI cost me only $855 NEW about 5 years ago. I don't need a kimber, as I shoot the gun and its not a showpiece. The m9 works out great for practical purposes. It's a less expensive option which had proven its worth in combat. Argue all you want, I see no reason for the taxpayer to fork out extra so a cop can have the sports car and showpiece gun without having to pay for it. Unemployment is at 8% nationally, but how many no longer qualify for benfits? The real count around here is close to 20%. Give us a break and let us catch up already...
    Don't see the need for any cop to be issued a heavy, low capacity taxpayer funded museum piece, either, when there are better general duty pistols on the market. But you are simply wrong about the Dodge Charger, which is not a sports car. It is an excellent choice for a patrol vehicle, and actually one of the lower cost options. If it bothers you that the cars actually look good, well, can't help you there.
    Slow is smooth.....smooth is fast.

  12. #41
    Member Array czfellow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    21

    Returns to Kimber

    On a 1911 forum, a fellow claimed his friend's Kimber is not a lemon even though it went back 4 times to the factory.

  13. #42
    Distinguished Member Array CDW4ME's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    1,208
    I had Kimbers, my mi$take.
    MIM is about saving the maker money, not better parts.
    Dan Wesson Valor, Ed Brown, Les Baer = no MIM
    I do not see anyone wishing their Ed Brown or Les Baer had MIM in it.
    No internal lock or magazine disconnect on my pistols!

  14. #43
    VIP Member
    Array oneshot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    +42.893612,-082.710236 , Mi.
    Posts
    7,939
    Quote Originally Posted by multistage View Post
    Keep the popcorn, I'm just gonna sit this one out.

    ^ME too^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Although I will say, I most likely would have wanted my Glock back as well, and I have no affinity to Glocks whatsoever.
    If you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans.

    Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British, He shot them!

    Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy." -- Ernest Benn

  15. #44
    Member Array revldm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    South Carolina
    Posts
    463
    Wow! All this Kimber bashing. I just bought one and so far I love it. Makes me wonder though if I just bought a high priced junker? I hope not because it was a gun I had wanted for a long time. So far I have put about 250 rounds thru it with no problems. I guess time will tell.

  16. #45
    Member Array Illusive Man's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Champaign, IL
    Posts
    255
    Quote Originally Posted by revldm View Post
    Wow! All this Kimber bashing. I just bought one and so far I love it. Makes me wonder though if I just bought a high priced junker? I hope not because it was a gun I had wanted for a long time. So far I have put about 250 rounds thru it with no problems. I guess time will tell.
    If you like it, enjoy it. I read all the same stuff when I bought mine. I worried about the MIM parts and all the other stuff folks bash kimber about. I decided to just shoot the thing, and it has been flawless. The only failure was a magazine failure, and that was with a CMC magazine. My stock kimber mags (which most have said are junk) have been flawless. Go out, shoot your gun, and enjoy it.
    Glock 22 Gen 4 w/CBST
    Kimber Compact CDP II w/Silent Thunder
    A man, without force, is without the essential dignity of humanity. Human nature is so constituted, that it cannot honor a helpless man, although it can pity him; and even this it cannot do long, if the signs of power do not arise.

Page 3 of 7 FirstFirst 1234567 LastLast

Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Search tags for this page

kimber custom tle ii review
,
kimber desert warrior review
,
kimber sis
,

kimber sis for sale

,
kimber tle ii review
,
kimber tle rl ii review
,
kimber ultra tle ii review
,

kimber warrior soc

,

kimber warrior soc for sale

,
kimber warrior soc review
,
lapd sis
,

lapd sis glock

Click on a term to search for related topics.