Tell me about your out of the box lemons
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September 19th, 2012 12:50 PM
Walther P99...took it straight to he range after one mag realized that it was firing wild shots, even from a benchrest all landed low left with no real grouping. Took it back to the dealer, he fired a few and figured out the barrel was warped. Got a new one and a prepaid visa with $200 and an apology from the LGS owner. 300+ rounds no problems.
September 19th, 2012 01:06 PM
10thmtn that may be true, but these folks told me I would have to pay to have it shipped and as I said this was a brand new gun right out of the box. If I buy something new and it dose not work I expect the seller to make it right or give me my money back. They had my money and all I had was a gun that would not work . When I spend a few hundred bucks for something I expect it to do what I bought it to do.
I bought a Tarus .380 at another shop and it would not feed any ammo without two or three jams per mag. I took it back and they exchanged it for a LCP and threw in a extra mag for my trouble. That is what I call customer service.
September 19th, 2012 02:41 PM
Bought one of the first Remington 1187's what PETA piece of junk that was! Did'ent matter what choke what load if a bird got up in front of that "shotgun" it was safe.
Bought a SIG c3 1911 that thing wouldent run but it would crack those SIG MIM barrel bushings.
When I was 13 or 14 I saved for half a year & bought a Winchester model 190 .22 (new) a jammer, back to the factory two maybe three times & at least twice to different gunsmiths and every time 4, 5 rounds a jam! Still have it, could never bring myself to trade off . Guess I don't like to make people mad.
I'm sure I have made myself forget some others.
That's what I like about hunters & shooters, if they get a firearm that's a lemon they are not shy about telling the world & I think that's why we do have so many good firearms on the market today!
September 19th, 2012 04:08 PM
Three different Taurus polymer pistols. PT145, PT111, 24/7 Pro. First two a live round in the chamber, seized the slide, sheared off the safety.....FUBAR. The 24/7 couldn't hit paper at two feet and was a complete jam-o-matic.
Several trips to Miami, and they all came back fine and have had no issues since. Local GS offered me $100 for each of them.....so I still have two of them. I gave the PT111 to my ex-wife as a going away present. heheheheh....paybacks can be had in very mysterious ways.
Give to them according to their deeds and according to the wickedness of their endeavors; give to them according to the work of their hands; render to them their deserts. Psalm 28:4
September 19th, 2012 04:19 PM
Colt Commander LW XSE. First 50 rounds shot fine, next rounds would not fire after 1st rd in mag was shot. Felt like safety was engaged. Had to pull hammer further down and then fire single shots repeating this. Took it to GS he polished sear spring, and mainspring. Ran fine after that. Only 150 rds through it thus far.
"Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt" ~ Mark Twain
September 19th, 2012 04:28 PM
I had a Walther PPKS that went full auto right our of the box on me. It was a Interarms import.
A couple yrs back, I bought a AMT Backup, with nice scrimshaw grips on it, only to do the very same thing.
Go to Youtube and type AMT Backup full auto and you'll see it. My son recorded it. 6 rnds in about a half second. LOL
and YES, I brought it back and had it fixed hehehehe
Why Waltz when you can Rock-N-Roll
September 19th, 2012 04:43 PM
I have a Firestorm 1911 that I started competing with. I could rely on it to FTE or FTF pretty frequently. I bought the other kind of pistiol brand new and right out of the box it never FTE or FTF. I thought something was wrong with it so after a lot of research I bought these things called snap caps. Apparently if you load one or two of these randomly in a magazine you can make the gun simulate what some people call a malfunction therefore allowing you to learn how to address these "malfunctions" in the heat of battle. These snap caps are miraculous. I can get this pistol to act kinda like my 1911 whenever I want to and If I don't feel like using the snap caps I just have to put up with the pistol firing every time I pull the trigger. I later bought another of this same pistol but smaller, it acts the same way. Hey, it can't rain all of the time.
Any guesses on what other pistol I bought?
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September 19th, 2012 04:52 PM
1911's well represented here I see.
My Sigma, never did fire, don't know why not, returned it to store. No more s and w for me
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September 19th, 2012 05:30 PM
Beretta 84 FS.
Beautiful pistol, very unreliable.
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September 19th, 2012 05:37 PM
I'd have looked for bigger mags!
Originally Posted by CLASS3NH
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September 19th, 2012 05:42 PM
There's some problems that aren't bad to have... just kidding :D
Originally Posted by CLASS3NH
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September 19th, 2012 07:17 PM
I don't know what your talking about... Heh heh
Originally Posted by _Hawkeye_
September 19th, 2012 07:26 PM
Springfield XDs,was a lemon out of the box and was a lemon after warranty service - gun would not feed,light primer strikes. Traded it off for another brand
GSG 1911.22 Kaboomed in my face,slide cracked ..hurt too...got a new slide and sold the POS and bought another brand
Easy to make a gun work even when its got a flaw,problem is some companies are in denial
September 19th, 2012 07:29 PM
No one seems to have any Glock complaints.
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September 19th, 2012 07:31 PM
I got rid of it and bought an all metal gun. I bought a Bersa Thunder 9 UC Pro and have put hundreds of rounds through it and have never had a failure of any kind with it.
Originally Posted by 031131
The quality of the Bersa is much better than the Ruger was.
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Bersa Thunder 9 UC Pro, 9mm. Gave To Daughter To Carry.
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