“Boy! That Hi-Point is a real tack driver!”

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    “Boy! That Hi-Point is a real tack driver!”

    Yesterday I was at the range (indoor range, as I had to talk to the RO regarding an upcoming event) and just going through a short set of “maintenance” drills. In the few minutes I was there shooting I noticed a couple of guys two lanes over. They were blasting away at a target on the 5 yard line. To say their patterns were a bit wide would be an understatement.

    I don’t normally involve myself in others shooting unless I feel it is unsafe. These guys didn’t seem unsafe at all, but they certainly couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn. So, I stepped back and watched them for a little while. One was an obvious novice and the other seemed to know just enough to think he could teach his buddy how to shoot. To his credit he was stressing safety all the while.

    I glanced in the stall to see what they were shooting. The “teacher” noticed my interest and proudly started showing off his brand new purchase, a Hi-Point 9mm. He said it was an impulse buy and he just had to get it on the range to shoot it as soon as the paperwork was finished. At this point he looked a little sad. He told me that all the hype about them were spot on. They didn’t shoot straight and no one could possible defend themselves with this gun.

    Now, I’m no expert on Hi-Points but from the couple I’ve dealt with, I think that as long as you get one that actually fires repeatedly they are OK (at least until they STOP firing repeatedly). I asked if I could fire a couple of rounds and he said that he would really appreciate another opinion. So, I loaded up and took aim at the target (still at 5 yards) and put three rounds in a moderately sized hole in the “X”. I cleared the gun and set in on the bench and said to the guy, “The gun shoots just fine.” I thanked him for letting me shoot his gun and said that maybe if he slowed down, his shooting he would be more successful.

    As I walked back to my lane the novice said loudly, “Boy! That Hi-Point is a real tack driver!”



    I constantly wonder why it is that people think it is the gun that makes the shots possible. I suppose it is the same thing that makes some think it is the car that makes a good driver. You know, “If only I had a better car, I would be a better driver.”

    This is my soapbox for the day.

    People, please, please, please, spend more of your time and money on learning the basics of shooting and less on the “gear”. The best, most accurate, most reliable gun in the world won’t do me ANY good if I can’t line up the sights and control my trigger press properly to put rounds repeatedly on target.

    OK, that was my soap box.
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    As much as I hate High Points, I very much agree with your observations. When mine didn't jam, it was still more accurate than I am.
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    You want him to spend less on his "gear" ? Were they out of stock of the Jiminez models?

    I feel your pain. It's tough to watch some folks shoot. I generally wont stick around if I observe safety issues. Some people dont accept feedback too well, and if they're armed, i'd rather not bother. I'll leave, and just give a quick "hey, may want to keep an eye on that guy in lane 3" to the range master as I leave.

    Another reason I feel blessed to have a dept range to use. The indoor range is mostly for foul weather or an occasional change of pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadRunner71 View Post
    {SNIP}
    I constantly wonder why it is that people think it is the gun that makes the shots possible. I suppose it is the same thing that makes some think it is the car that makes a good driver. You know, “If only I had a better car, I would be a better driver.”
    {/SNIP}.
    The same reason people blame guns for shooting deaths and murders instead of the individuals responsible. We live in funny times. When a criminal rapes a woman and kills her, his family makes excuses and fights to get the lowest punishment, ,,, "he was just turning his life around", or that "it wasn't his fault, internet porn taught him to do that!" it seems personal responsibility is a thing of the past. (Although personal liability AKA lawsuits, is a thing of present time unfortunately.)


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    Boy, for a second there i thought it was going to be a bash a rama. Mine has been flawless... more so than guns i own that cost 5 times as much. Here is my 45 acp High Point in the beautiful OD Green.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunker View Post
    Boy, for a second there i thought it was going to be a bash a rama. Mine has been flawless... more so than guns i own that cost 5 times as much. Here is my 45 acp High Point in the beautiful OD Green.
    Did it come in that color or did you refinish it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgrass101 View Post
    Did it come in that color or did you refinish it?
    Stock color... didnt want the basic black... if you are going to have an ugly looking gun, it might as well be really ugly
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    Yup. I have to chuckle at all the comments that blame supposedly "bad" triggers, "bad" grip angles, and the like for poor accuracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10thmtn View Post
    Yup. I have to chuckle at all the comments that blame supposedly "bad" triggers, "bad" grip angles, and the like for poor accuracy.
    Isn't that why Glocks all shoot low and to the left?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niks View Post
    It aint the ski, it's the skier. It ain't the golf club, it's the golf clubber. It ain't the raquet, it's the raqueteer.
    It ain't the arrow, it's the archer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunker View Post
    Boy, for a second there i thought it was going to be a bash a rama. Mine has been flawless... more so than guns i own that cost 5 times as much. Here is my 45 acp High Point in the beautiful OD Green.


    But then, you would need one heck of a HUGE tack to drive it with that group. :)
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    Was this at total firearms?
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    OP, my concern is now you've convinced them it a "great" gun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryball View Post
    Was this at total firearms?
    Good guess. If there is another indoor range in the area, I don't know about it.

    Hey HB.... you didn't just buy a new gun yesterday, did you?
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