I'd get the M&P for the ergos
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Glock 30, 19, 26; Ruger LCP (2), LCR, Mini 14; Remington 870; Marlin 336 .30-30
........never been fired, and only dropped once.
Three pages in and no love for the walther p99? I like the p99 AS myself, but the QA is a good handgun too. Available in .40, not too expensive, and now comes with a lifetime warranty. If you're looking for a glock like trigger then the PPQ is the best place to spend your money.
I would definately go with the G22. My dept issues G23's which I love too. When we went from Gen 2's to Gen 3's, I was a new Firearms Instrcutor at the time and suggested to the Head Instructor that we go with 22's instead of 23's. The dept wouldn't do it bc they would have to supply everyone with new mag pouches! Are you kidding me? Anyway I was new to the unit and was trumped.
I recently aquired my own 22 that I carry off-duty sometimes. She runs as expected!
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I'm not an LEO, but the ones I know woukd love to have the option. Most of the departments around here issue one thing and they don't have a choice. Only two smaller PDs have a choice, and in one of those you can even pick your own duty ammo.
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I am a Glock guy so the G22 is my first choice, but you would be doing yourself a disservice if you didnt not try the M&P 40 with the new factory trigger, I handled one at my LGS and the trigger was fantastic, it honestly felt as good as the APEX aftermarket trigger.
From what I have been reading if the shell case envelope is dated 6-2012 or later it should have the new trigger, if you dry fire the M&P I think there wont be any doubt which trigger is in the gun (old or new) because the old one has a mushy feel with a long reset you dont hear and the new one has a crisp break with an audible "click" on the reset, much like a Glock.
Good luck either way.
Gen 3 G19 ~ Gen 3 G19 OD ~ Gen 3 G34 ~ PT 738 ~ M&P 9mm ~ Ruger 22/45 4" bull barrel ~ Marlin 60~ PSA M4 Carbine ~
HK would be my first choice. Out of your options, the Sig.
In my recent search for purchasing my .40, I too looked at the same weapons you were looking at plus the CZ. I found that the FNP40 fit EXTREMELY well in my hand and seems to
have a natural point of aim for my hand.
A friend had recently purchased the HK in .40 and when he handled the FN he to was impressed and is in the process of swapping weapons.
For what it's worth!
If you can carry a G21 I would consider it. I love mine and I shoot the .45 much better than I ever shot the G23 I sold a few years back.
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Been on the job 21 years as of today, as a matter of fact. Been a firearms instructor and armorer 15 of those. I have been issued and carried on duty the following sidearms; S&W: 5906, 645, 640, Sig: P220, P226, P229, Glock: 21, 21SF, 26, 30 and 36, Colt: 1911. What I feel I've learned about combat arms is that the 2 most advantageous things to have in combat sidearm (and any combat armament)are reliability and simplicity of use. I would put Glock ahead of all others I've been issued in that category. I have no experience with the M&P's and their reliabilty, but they appear to be as simple to operate as the Glock (no external safeties, etc.)