This is a discussion on New project, personal gun. within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Keltec P11/40. Basic 9MM with .40 conversion. Is stippled, ported, trigger work. Will get duracoated in some kinda camo colors. Just seeing what potential this ...
Keltec P11/40. Basic 9MM with .40 conversion. Is stippled, ported, trigger work. Will get duracoated in some kinda camo colors. Just seeing what potential this gun has. Stippling really helped get it under control and the porting reduced muzzle flip significantly for shot to shot recovery. Just cold blued the slide for now.
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You'll be blind at night after your first shot with the ported barrel. Good luck.
That's what I used to think too. Reality is with defensive loads in a short barreled gun the muzzle flash is much greater than the small flash from the port. Have you tried a ported gun at night? I shot this one before and after the porting in low light and the shot to shot recovery is much better with hardly any increase in "blindness". Try shooting any short barreled gun in low light with hot loads, you will see what I mean.
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Night blindness isn't the issue with ports on a defensive pistol.
The problem is when the BG is right up on you and your pistol is aimed say up at him, and now the ports are aiming at your face; or maybe you have to fire from the hip or from retention close to the chest/arm pit, and now have expanding, hot gas being directed at your person.
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I have a couple of P11's that I carry in an ankle holster. Not the most pleasant range gun, but they have never failed to go bang. Keltec used to offer the P40 in their lineup
but discontinued it a while ago. What is required to convert a P11 to a 40? That would definitely be an outstanding back up weapon.
I have a couple of P11's that I carry in an ankle holster. Not the most pleasant range gun, but they have never failed to go bang. Keltec used to offer the P40 in their lineup
but discontinued it a while ago. What is required to convert a P11 to a 40? That would definitely be an outstanding back up weapon.
The P40 kit is a barrel, slide and recoil spring and rod. They don't make them anymore. They come up for sale on occasion. The gun that I have came with both calibers. Even in 9MM the gun is a handful, hence the porting and stippling. The .40 is quite a bit snappier. But with the stippling and porting, the gun is really not too bad to shoot. Any of the small pocket guns require almost more practice than the bigger ones. I trained a couple of people including ladies lately that had small .380 pocket/purse guns and both needed a lot of coaching to be able to get consistent hits with the smaller gun. Anytime the gun is light and shoots defensive loads they can be snappy. Same applies to lightweight revolvers shooting .38 +P defensive loads. I normally carry a full size .45 ACP and the weight of that gun along with the larger size just makes it easier to shoot. But they require more fore thought and planning to carry. As we all know, anything with a carry gun is a matter of trade offs. The easier and lighter they are to carry, the more compromises must be weighed. But for deep carry and BUG use, this type of gun can be the ticket. Especially if you consider the price point of the Keltecs.
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Just saying what? If you don't like stippling, cool. No need to degrade the work. Commonly done on a lot of different guns and there is a lot more to it than just burning some dimples into a plastic gun. Have done dozens of Glocks, M&Ps, XDs, STI and others. It can be done well and it can easily be screwed up as well. Some like it and some don't. Fact is that it works and I will take things that work and enhance the shoot-ability and control-ability over just eye candy any day. Some of the most usable "enhancements" to competition and carry guns don't look purty to everyone, but fact is that it works. And takes some skill and time to do right.
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