Some respect for the .22 as a defensive weapon????
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November 9th, 2012 09:01 PM
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Some respect for the .22 as a defensive weapon????
I've been searching out stories of citizens using firearms for protection, and over the past few weeks have read a couple hundred. Most don't specify the caliber of weapon used, but some do. And what I've noticed is there seems to be little, if any, correlation between the caliber of the weapon and the outcome. Almost all of the stories fit into one of these scenarios.... 1. Intruder entered house, citizen drew gun, intruder ran. 2. Intruder entered house, citizen shot, wounding intruder, he ran, cops caught him a couple blocks away or when he went to the hospital. 3. Intruder entered house, citizen shot, killing the intruder. In virtually all of the cases, drawing a weapon, whether or not fired, regardless of caliber, including .22s, stopped the attack. And there were as many .22 shootings that ended in death as any other caliber except a shotgun.
It seems on forums like this the accepted truth is that bigger is better, and most put the minimum acceptable caliber at a 9mm or maybe a .380. Now I understand that all things equal, a bigger and deeper hole will do the job quicker, but it seems to me that even a .22 does the job in the majority of cases. I think we overestimate the commitment of most bad guys. The vast majority of them are opportunists. They are looking for an easy target, and are not looking for a fight.
Now I'm not saying we should all retire our .45s, .357s, and 9mms. If I hear a bump in the night I'll still reach for my .357 or my 12 gauge. But I don't think we should just dismiss the .22 as ineffective, because there are a lot of real-life cases where it has been effective. There are a lot of reasons why a person might use a .22 for self-defense, and in some cases it might be the best choice.
I'm sure I'll get a lot of the same cliches we always hear when the topic of caliber is discussed. Yes, I know, bigger is better.
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November 9th, 2012 09:07 PM
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November 9th, 2012 09:10 PM
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Sometimes due to arthritis or other conditions a 22 is all someone may be able to handle, while I prefer a larger weapon I will not feel undergunned with a 22.
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November 9th, 2012 09:13 PM
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Just like any other bullet. If you do your part, a 22 should work.
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November 9th, 2012 09:15 PM
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I give .22 respect as a defensive weapon if you add a "3" to the end of it 
In all seriousness... it may be better than no gun at all, but it definitely would not be my first choice. Someone who can't handle the recoil of something bigger, may be able to have better and multiple follow up shots with it but otherwise something bigger would be better.
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November 9th, 2012 09:30 PM
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November 9th, 2012 09:38 PM
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Would I grab the .22 over my two 9mm's no. If that was the gun in my hand when SHTF you better beleive I would dump all 10 froom it into the issue!
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November 9th, 2012 09:45 PM
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Mrs Pockets does not have the wrist strength to control most (actually any) other handguns, so I bought her a Ruger SR22. Feels good in her hand, she can successfully work the action and can place all ten rounds in a three inch circle at 30 feet. Since it is actually a weapon she enjoys shooting, I feel it is the best weapon for her, and while I think of it as being 'better than a stick in the eye," I don't feel comfortable with anything smaller than my PX4 Compact (9mm - 15 rounds).
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November 9th, 2012 09:46 PM
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I respect any gun loaded with any ammo. I don't care if you shoot a .22 or a .45, it will kill.
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November 9th, 2012 09:48 PM
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Perhaps it holds up better when considered as a "home defensive" round. Unless it's a kidnapping attempt, I suspect most intruders would not be armed (just a hunch). It might be different if it's an actual "gunfight" scenario. I've (thankfully) not faced either, so this is just speculation.
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November 9th, 2012 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by
Stormin1155
In virtually all of the cases,
It is prudence; whereas one plans not to "slip between the virtual cracks."
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November 9th, 2012 09:51 PM
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My wife loves her .22 mag SA. Maybe not the BEST choice. But dang she's good with it, runnin squirrels at 15 yards no problem. She does carry bigger (judge OC/TCP cc) but a 22 in her hands is downright deadly.
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November 9th, 2012 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Mrs Pockets does not have the wrist strength to control most (actually any) other handguns, so I bought her a Ruger SR22. Feels good in her hand, she can successfully work the action and can place all ten rounds in a three inch circle at 30 feet. Since it is actually a weapon she enjoys shooting, I feel it is the best weapon for her, and while I think of it as being 'better than a stick in the eye," I don't feel comfortable with anything smaller than my PX4 Compact (9mm - 15 rounds).
You have done well to find your wife's comfort level. It appears that she is comfortable and competent with the .22. When she is ready to consider something else, her positive experience with her .22 will better enable her to embrace and master that platform as well.
Too often we forget that every journey begins with a single step. Your wife has begun her journey and is on her way. I commend your support of her choice for her first firearm. May she continue to enjoy and experience growing levels of competence as time passes.
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November 9th, 2012 10:22 PM
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One of the nice things about .22 LR is that you can stockpile a bunch of it without breaking the bank. While not my first choice, a .22 carbine makes a dandy and handy weapon to have around if the SHTF. And Hurricane Sandy has reminded all of us that the S can indeed HTF...even in the mighty US of A.
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November 9th, 2012 10:22 PM
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I'll carry a .22 before I carry nothing but it's not very often that I do (unless it's a work day - then I have to leave any and all firearms at home - sigh) I'm not only more proficient with my 9, it holds quite a few more rounds than my .22. I have no qualms carrying my .22 though, it's just not my preference.
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