.22 Mag.: Recoil? + Effectiveness AND Which Gun Is The Best 22 Mag
This is a discussion on .22 Mag.: Recoil? + Effectiveness AND Which Gun Is The Best 22 Mag within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Gary T
Glad to hear you may have a solution to your problem.
Not sure if component 5.7 bullets are available ...
December 7th, 2012 02:40 AM
I have no space to handload in the small space I live and I'm not sure there is equipment for this weird ammo.
Originally Posted by Gary T
The FN Five-SeveN is by far the weirdest gun I have ever owned - or held in my hand (still haven't shot it yet, I will over the weekend). First off it is fairly ugly - (honesty being the best policy) - but also it looks like a Mattel gun, and is so light that when you hold it you expect to see some place you put the caps, like I used on my toy guns when I was 7. The colored "plastic" controls increase this illusion. It looks and feels like it cost $12 to manufacture. Seriously.
But when I broke it down for the initial cleaning and lube, the guts of the gun - looking down at the receiver - look like a large wind-up watch, MANY small weird parts, looks quite complicated.
If this gun shoots well and won't hurt my hands it will be its only virtue, but right now that would be great for me. I'll post after I shoot.
December 7th, 2012 02:40 AM
December 7th, 2012 10:01 AM
I've always thought they were a little weird, too - but hopefully it'll turn out to be just what you needed.
Never shot one, but they've certainly got a reputation for light recoil, and the grip size should be a plus for you. No question that it's a pretty effective cartridge, too.
Congrats on your purchase - more so if you find you really like it!
December 8th, 2012 03:24 AM
I shot it tonight first time and the recoil - while stronger than a .22 - did not hurt either hand, including the very bad dominant rt hand. However, I'll run by the Doc further use of that hand. I also found an easier way to shoot the off-hand and not have to make it one-handed due to problems with the other: the "cup and saucer grip" non-shooting hand under the gun giving it a "platform" to steady it. Still feels really odd shooting with the non-dominant hand but I can get reasonable accuracy with that grip and not involve the bad thumb joint.
Originally Posted by Kilowatt3
The gun has a real loud crack, which makes you feel the recoil is more than it is, but I watched my hand when firing and there is little movement. I also wore my hand splints which puts a lot of neoprene thick material as a cushion between the hand and back of the gun's hilt, which I believe soaks up most of the recoil - in that way they make excellent shooting gloves.
I like the gun itself, and the little recoil (likely between a .22 and what folks describe as .380 recoil - which I don't know, shot one but a long time ago. Anyway, in that ballpark.) Mostly due to my hand condition, I'd like a bit smoother trigger pull, and I think FN may do this for more bucks of course; it's SA and I have to use a bit of pressure from my thumb on the hilt to get past the initial trigger resistance. I'll check into FN smoothing trigger.
Quite odd but feels OK: the manual safety lever on the Five-Seven is mid-way along the length of the gun and ambidextrous. You move it with the forefinger/trigger- finger. Doesn't seem to take longer or screw up finger placement on the trigger, so fine here - and easier than using my thumb with a damaged joint.
Gun feels powerful - and I think the two slightly different rounds I shot are somewhere around 2000 fps and the rounds look like rifle bullets though shorter and not anywhere as large in circumference. One has a "plastic" point on top. Don't know why. Weird..
Expensive but not outrageous at my range, about $25 for either type per 50-box, they really are only about 10% more than 45acp so you can shoot it with regularity.
So, I generally like it and am so happy I can shoot it without pain. (I shot just under a box tonight which is average for me with a particular round). If not it would have been a loss of a hunk of money and the pain-in- the-A. of selling. (and also would have been very discouraging).
That's my initial shooting report if interested!
December 8th, 2012 09:14 AM
Detective, thanks for that range report on an interesting gun. And thank you for putting a bit of yourself into this electric conversation and showing us your way to adapt and overcome, a service to us all.
December 13th, 2012 02:53 PM
Uh......not really........ Neither of the available 17 rimfire cartridges (17 HMR and 17 Mach 2) are designed for self defense......unless one includes self defense against charging ground squirrels and such. I shot both of these rounds this summer on a ground squirrel hunt and the ammo protected me well.
the Taurus .17 caliber revolver. It uses a necked down version of the .22 WMR and is a high velocity low recoil firearm designed for self defense
December 13th, 2012 04:30 PM
I know you said that the Keltec PMR-30 is out, but I wonder if they can modify the magazine or will be planning on offering magazines with 10 round limit for states that require it ??? I guess you can contact them and ask. Does not hurt to try ??? The PMR-30 weighs only about 15 ounces. God Bless
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