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    Added a few guns to the collection

    These where given to me by my grandfather first is an 88 Mauser infantry rifle he brought back from ww2 the second is a gun he had built in the 50s chambered in 250-3000 savage necked to 22 so a 22-250, sits on a 98 Mauser action with a hand cut stock and old fecker scope, not sure what there worth but the varmint gun is a blast to shoot!
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    Nice additions, the scope on the 98 is a real classic.
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    Ive never seen a scope like that, anyone know more about it?

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    Nice piece of wood on the varmint gun... and check out the "teaspoon" bolt handle on the Mauser!
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    It's a j.w fecker 18x from that iv red it's a real top quality scope same style used by marine snipers in ww2 and no longer in production also saw its quite valuable
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    Awesome looking guns. I'm not to sure about that scope though. I know its a classic but it looks like it would be rather hard to use.

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    Thanks there truly beautiful I'm looking forward to passing them to my children one day
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    Unique firearms and an important family gift.
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    Great stuff there! Both of them.

    That Gewehr 88 Commission rifle is nice. They now command some respect in the collectors' market after being somewhat of a redheaded stepchild for some years, overshadowed by the innovative 98 Mauser. The original bore diameter was slightly smaller at .318 (the "J" bore) than the diameter standardized later which was .323 (the "JS" bore). Neither the action nor the steels used in the rifle are said to be quite up to modern 8mm as loaded in Europe or as was provided to the German Wehrmacht during World War II.

    Some 88 Commission rifles were reworked and feature .323 bores but one needs to know the variants and markings or else slug the bore to determine diameter. The "Remingchester" loadings here in the U.S. are very mild out of consideration of its possible use in the really old German 8mm arms, loaded to take into consideration the design and age of the rifles and their slightly tight bore. Thought factory loads have .323 diameter bullets they are loaded so mildly that firing them in the tight bore causes no harm. Such factory loads are the best bet use in these rifles for shooting. American 8mm ammunition mimics .30-40 in performance. European ammunition mimics .30-06 in performance. A friend once wanted to chronograph his WWII era 98 Mauser and was using Remington 170 grain jacketed soft point factory loads. This load tested to yield about 2250 fps from his rifle. He later got some Norma ammunition as well which featured a 196 grain bullet. This was a horse of a load which gave nearly 2700 fps! That would be the kind of ammunition to keep away from an 88 Commission rifle.

    That Mauser sporter looks just the thing for 1950s varminting and isn't far off of the configuration of the style of rifles originally used for bench rest competition in the 1940s. J.E. Gebby popularized the .22 Varminter, which was his name for the .250-3000 necked to .224, in the 1930s and it was a perennial favorite among early benchresters and wildcatters until Remington standardized it in 1965. A smooth move on Remington's part, the .22-250 squashed both the .220 Swift and the newly introduced .225 Winchester almost immediately when it hit the market. Most custom chambers were made to the Gebby specs. which Remington apparently adopted without modification. My dad has a pre-war Winchester Model 70 Supergrade that was originally a .30-06 but was rebarreled by J.E. Gebby himself into a .22 Varminter and so marked. Factory .22-250 works perfectly as do handloads. My dad obtained the rifle from its original owner who had Gebby do the work.
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    The 98 from what I was told is just the action the barrel was a blank order from Ohio and milled then mounted in the 98 action I'm not 100% I do know there are no s marked on the 88 it's the original cal barrel

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    Very cool, I love the historical guns. And that your grandfather brought one back and had the other made is awesome. You're going to shoot em right?!?!?!?!
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    Iv shot the varmint rifle loves my 22-250 hand loads, I have to find ammo for the 88

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    Your Grandpa had his poop together.
    Nice stuff, glad you'll be able to enjoy them and then pass them.
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    Thank you

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    very nice rifles
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