12 reasons why I don't carry a .380......
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12 reasons why I don't carry a .380......
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i just went the other way, 38 sp to 380. why? because my paper has holes in it after shooting the 380 at. i coundn't hit very good with the snubby. but the 380 was made for me the bullet hits what it's pointed at.
I'm not going to start a caliber debate. but I will NOT EVER carry a .380ACP as a PRIMARY gun. I've carried a full size combat fighting gun (comfortably CONCEALED) for the 97% of my time carrying a firearm. the other 3% of the factor is a compact 9mm, or a .38Spl +P.
IMHO if you are in a fight for your LIFE why in the world do you want a gun that is so small and harder to manipulate and shoot then a full size gun that holds 3 times the amount of ammo? And the ammo is more powerful?
No way... I agree with you a .38Spl +P is an upgrade (if you can reload it FAST) from a .380ACP for your primary gun.
NRA Certified Rifle/Pistol Instructor
Accuracy ALWAYS WINS! So carry what you can hit with.
If you find yourself in a fair fight your tactics stink.
Back in the day when we were issued the 2 1//2 inch S&W model 19. We would joke about them saying that you had several chances to get the perp if you used it in a small room
1. You could shoot them
2, You could burn them
3. You could blind them
4, You could burst thier ear drums.
It is an unforgetable experience to fire a 2 1/2 inch .357 in a small enclosed place.
It is better that I have flashbacks about them, then them having flashbacks about me
USMC RET 1961-1971
Look at the OP decision. What if he faces multiple assailants and misses one or two of his shots? He better be damn accurate with the revolver, but with his weak, slow, ineffective, not worthy .380 he has more rounds to spare.
Guns to me are tools. Tools for specific applications. .380's such as the Ruger LCP is a tool I use for hot weather carry, a example is a +90 day, high humidity, shorts, light gauze shirt. Tough to carry even a subcompact like the Glock 27 or M&P40c. In the fall/winter season you will sometimes find me carrying a S&W Performance Center 629 .44. You have to match the tool to the job. The .380 is useful and fill a niche. My perfect carry weapon is a tricked out/compact AR platform in .233, but this also is a tool not applicable to all jobs. Don’t sell the .380 short.
357mag is a better round than the 380acp? umm.. am I the only one here that thinks "duh." ???
I wasnt aware that the 380 was a contender to compete against the 357 for anything...
I'd rather be armed with ANY firearm.. ANY firearm than have nothing but my words and fists.. im not a brawler.. I cant fight that good anymore now that I've gotten fat and slow.. i cant run the 1/4 mile in 52.5 seconds like i did in High school and college.. i want A GUN.. after a gun i'll take a good combat knife.. but even a 22lr is better than sticks.. and I can hit ANYTHING with a 22lr inside of 30yds.
I think the cliches being mentioned here pretty much say it all. The "blank" in your pocket is better than the "blank" you left at home.... Carry what you can comfortably and accurately use to defend yourself with... etc.
I don't want to be a hero, but I'm sure not going to be a victim.
Hydrogen and human stupidty are the two most common elements on earth, not necessarily in that order. -- Albert Einstein
I agree with the above post. If the recoil of the .357 is so objectionable that you will rarely train with it, then you are doing yourself a dis-service by carrying it.
Personally, I see no reason to carry a .357 in a snubbie. I use .38 Spl standard pressure 158gr SWCs in my LCR. They cut a full caliber hole, and will penetrate deeply to the vitals, without all the drama of a .357 out of a short barrel. Multiple shots are easy to achieve - don't be fooled into thinking you will only need one shot, even with a .357.
Given that I carry a .38 and a .380 during the work week, I would suggest that it is not an either/or argument. Consider carrying both. They actually complement each other rather well.
The number of people killed because they didn't have "enough gun" is dwarfed by those who had none at all. Get a gun you will always carry, and add more capability as you grow.
If I ever have to use my gun to defend myself, I don't want any surprises. When I got my Glock a few months ago, not only did I put a few hundred rounds downrange to make sure the gun wasn't flawed, I also wanted to get used to the gun so if I have to use it, I know what to expect.
I loved the 38sp I had; (for 30yrs). I also love my Ruger 357. But, it's to big & heavy for CC.
I prefer the extra couple of rounds I get with a 380 when it comes to CC. I know if I happen to face multiple (3-4) BGs , I have enough love to share so everyone can get some and still have enough for seconds without having to reload.
I would gladly carry a 5-6 shot 38 or 357 is that was the only choice I had. But, it's not. I prefer a hot 40sw round or a hot 45acp round for CC and my BUG preference is a small 380. Besides, with today's advanced technology in ballistics, the "performance" differences are to minimal to cause much concern. (JMHO)
That might be a reason to stop carrying that big .380. But if you carry a P3AT or LCP its way smaller, lighter, thinner.
what ever makes ya'll happy....just tickles me to death