Glock 33 in 357 Sig?

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    Glock 33

    Chronograph average for 5 shots out of my Glock 33
    Gold Dot 125 gr. @ 1,315 fps / 480# KE
    Cor-Bon 125 gr. @ 1,324 fps / 486# KE
    Lots of power in a packable, concealable, package.
    I use the Pearce +0 magazine base to give my pinky a spot; it doesn't really hinder concealment for me.
    The bottleneck design is inheriently feed reliable, feeding a .355 bullet into a .40 chamber.


    On paper, using the PF calculation, the .357 Sig produces a little less recoil than the 40 S&W.
    However, In my hands, using a shot timer, I have not been able to get the shot timer to consistently show that difference.
    If the loads are equal, Ranger T .357 Sig vs Ranger T 40, my perception would have been (still is) that the .357 Sig kicked (kicks) slightly less.
    I carry Ranger T in the 33, but I prefer a softer kicking round in my 27, like Golden Saber 165 or Federal HS 180.
    Sometimes blast is confused with recoil and a person might perceive the .357 Sig to kick as hard as a .40, but that typically isn't so out of equivalent pistols.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDW4ME View Post
    Chronograph average for 5 shots out of my Glock 33
    Gold Dot 125 gr. @ 1,315 fps / 480# KE
    Cor-Bon 125 gr. @ 1,324 fps / 486# KE
    Lots of power in a packable, concealable, package.
    I use the Pearce +0 magazine base to give my pinky a spot; it doesn't really hinder concealment for me.
    The bottleneck design is inheriently feed reliable, feeding a .355 bullet into a .40 chamber.


    On paper, using the PF calculation, the .357 Sig produces a little less recoil than the 40 S&W.
    However, In my hands, using a shot timer, I have not been able to get the shot timer to consistently show that difference.
    If the loads are equal, Ranger T .357 Sig vs Ranger T 40, my perception would have been (still is) that the .357 Sig kicked (kicks) slightly less.
    I carry Ranger T in the 33, but I prefer a softer kicking round in my 27, like Golden Saber 165 or Federal HS 180.
    Sometimes blast is confused with recoil and a person might perceive the .357 Sig to kick as hard as a .40, but that typically isn't so out of equivalent pistols.

    I too carry Ranger Bullets in my 33.

    The muzzle flash from .357 sig is definitely a lot more than comparable rounds. Buffalo Bore makes a low flash version you can get at Cabelas or Midway USA.

    One of the biggest advantages to .357 sig is that even though there is a high demand for ammo right now, I rearely have trouble finding ammo for this caliber. Just not enough demand. I also have found a source online that sells it cheap cheap (87.50 for 250 rounds plus shipping for fmj)

    Also, as others have already mentioned, a .40 barrel makes your glock essentially a g27 as well. The magazines are cpatible with .40 ammo, all you need is a barrell.
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    So, did you guys buy a Glock 33 or any .357 SIGs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clarkston_cz View Post
    So, did you guys buy a Glock 33 or any .357 SIGs?
    After converting my G27 to run 357 Sig and doing some terminal testing on both the 40 and 357, I'm sold on the 357. Considering buying a dedicated G33, but am holding off until we hear an update on the Sig 224. I assume we should hear something at SHOT.

    This test sold me on 357 Sig.

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    Yes, after owning a few .40s along the way.

    .357 SIG was the new kid on the block.

    I look at it as a Magnumized 9mm cartridge with less recoil than a .40 S&W, at least in the 155-180 gr. range.
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    I have a 31C as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justben View Post
    ... Actually my first gun was a G33. I sold it in favor of a PPS 9mm, then got a p239 in .357 sig, and then realized I had gotten it right on the first try. I got another one and have never looked back.

    ...

    The only thing that could be better is a pps in .357 sig or a single stack .357 sig.
    A P239 is a single stack!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zonker1986 View Post
    Glock 33 with 11+1 147gr bullets moving at 1225 fps is a formiddable carry gun. I find the recoil out the G33 to be very manageable, and
    loads of fun to shoot.






    its bigger brother with 13+1, Glock 32


    I'm seriously considering putting the g32 on layaway in a few weeks. I have the g22 and LOVE the fact I can switch to a .357sig but just having another glock to the collection makes my face smile and my heart all warm!

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    The 33 "works". I really like the fact it is easier to reach out to 50-60 yds. accurately. If you liked the 26, then the 33 is basically the same thing with much better ballistics. I use 32 mags in mine because I can't stand the short grip.

    I actually prefer the 32, but like I said, if you are already ok with the sub-compact size, then go for it. I haven't check lately, but the 357 brass was cheaper than 9mm Luger last time I purchased some.

    The "recoil" is different, but I don't really notice it much. I actually prefer it, more of a push than the 9mm, but sharper than the .45 ACP. I would say the 33 is about the limit though on power that can be controlled in such a short grip frame. Not that it hurts, but just that it's hard to control and hang on to.

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    Recoil: Subjective & Objective

    Let's quantify recoil using the PF calculation (subjectively I tend to agree with the data)
    PF = power factor: bullet weight x bullet speed / 1,000 = PF
    Glock 26: Ranger T 127 Gr. +P+ @ 1,182 fps = PF 150
    Glock 33: Ranger T 125 Gr. @ 1,280 fps = PF 160
    Glock 27: Ranger T 165 Gr. @ 1,116 fps = PF 184
    Those ^ are as "apples to apples" as it gets, same pistol size, weight, grip, same makers ammo in different calibers, same chrono.

    Out of the Glock 27 I find the Federal 180 HST @ 930 fps / PF 167 more to my liking.
    I can feel the difference in PF 160 vs 184

    Glock 30 SF: Ranger T 230 Gr. @ 874 fps = PF 201
    The fatter grip and heavier slide of the 30 SF makes it difficult to accurately compare recoil (subjectively) to the subcompacts 26/33/27.
    I don't like the felt recoil of Ranger T in my 30 SF using the flush fitting 9 round magazines (I don't like or use the 10 rounders with the oversize base)
    In my Glock 30 SF I use a Hornady 185 XTP @ 970 fps for a much more tolerable 179 PF
    I can also feel the difference in PF 179 vs 201
    No internal lock or magazine disconnect on my pistols!

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