How many FTF, FTE, Stove Pipes, till you lose confidence in a ccw

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    How many FTF, FTE, Stove Pipes, till you lose confidence in a ccw

    My first gun purchase was a kel-tec p3at. Right out of the box it refused to fire, (light strike). I tore it apart and lubed it. Still the same result. I had to cut the firing pin spring a little at a time till it fired. Now it light strikes once in every 2 clips full. Still, I cant trust it in the back of my mind. All the other guns I bought had a spent cartridge showing it was tested. Now I have a S&W 642 and love it. OK, done bashing Keltec. Anyone else have a lemon right out of the box?

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    Welcome to the forum.

    Sorry your first post had to be a negative one, but "life happens." Did you try contacting Kel-Tec for support before resorting to home gunsmithing? I understand their customer service is above average.
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    Yes, 2 S&W PPK's. Liked the gun a lot, just could not trust it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sebring View Post
    My first gun purchase was a kel-tec p3at. Right out of the box it refused to fire, (light strike). I tore it apart and lubed it. Still the same result. I had to cut the firing pin spring a little at a time till it fired. Now it light strikes once in every 2 clips full. Still, I cant trust it in the back of my mind. All the other guns I bought had a spent cartridge showing it was tested. Now I have a S&W 642 and love it. OK, done bashing Keltec. Anyone else have a lemon right out of the box?
    Some KelTecs run like champs, most however do not it seems. I had a PF9 and a P3at and neither one could be counted on.

    And correct me if im wrong, but wouldnt cutting coils off your firing pin spring weaken its tension? Thus resulting in less force going into the primer, making your problem worse?
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    That sounds like a nightmare.

    I have a DB9, another micro gun that has had it's share of problems. Mine functions 100% with my carry ammo, but will hang up with some range ammo here and there. From what I've seen it's been a combination of getting the gun dirty after firing a few mags through it and then using brass that's not completely clean. I still trust it for pocket carry when I need it, as I've proven it will feed the nickel plated defensive ammo 100% even when others might jam constantly.

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    I wouldn't trust something that fails every two Magazines. I want a minimum of 200 rounds malfunction free before carrying. OT, it's a magazine, not a clip. Also, if this is your first gun,why are you acting as a gunsmith and cutting the spring?
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    You should have called Kel Tec, based on my experience and many other folks they have an outstanding customer service and stand behind their products. I have a P3AT that i sometimes carry as a BUG and it has been flawless.
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    Welcome to the forum!

    I think many of us have had weapons we thought were lemons until they got broken in. Never owned, or shot, a Kel-Tec, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NMB View Post
    And correct me if im wrong, but wouldnt cutting coils off your firing pin spring weaken its tension?
    Nope. Cutting coils off a spring increases the spring rate - but it might make the spring too short for its intended use.
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    I trimmed the spring because the place where I bought it said it would cost 50 bucks to send it to kel-tec.

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    For my taste it is fine if it happens initially and can be corrected. I bought a Colt 1911 and it had some issues with the sear spring. Took it to my smith, he explained the issue, 400 rds later it works great, so I would require a situation like that. Feww hundred trouble free rounds and consistent performance at the range and it will get my nod.
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    The very first thing to do if you are getting light strikes is to try a different brand of ammo. Because sometimes the problem is overly hard primers with one specific ammo brand... rather than light primer strikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sebring View Post
    My first gun purchase was a kel-tec p3at. Right out of the box it refused to fire, (light strike). I tore it apart and lubed it. Still the same result. I had to cut the firing pin spring a little at a time till it fired. Now it light strikes once in every 2 clips full. Still, I cant trust it in the back of my mind. All the other guns I bought had a spent cartridge showing it was tested. Now I have a S&W 642 and love it. OK, done bashing Keltec. Anyone else have a lemon right out of the box?
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    I sent kel-tec an email about the problem. I'll see what they can do. If they fix it, and I can get 100 rounds without incident, then it would make a great backup.

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