This is a discussion on Army likely to "Dump" 9MM for 40s&w or 45's? within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; "..After the M4’s shortcomings, troops complain the most about their aging and "underpowered 9mm" M9 pistols, Coburn added". Perhaps we can use this in our ...
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Perhaps we can use this in our current political fight."..After the M4’s shortcomings, troops complain the most about their aging and "underpowered 9mm" M9 pistols, Coburn added".
See, even the military says the M4/AR15 isn't sufficient for soldiers. So, they aren't assault rifles after all. They're woefully inadequate for war, so they ought to be safe in the hands of private citizens.
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Would they sell all the extra ammo if they do get rid of the 9mm?
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I dont know about that.....most of your criminals investigated services carry the m11...and we seem to be giving away a lot of glocks to other countries.Originally Posted by OldVet
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Unlikely. DoD supplies .45 ACP and (I believe) .38 Special as well for guns that remain issued. Any stores on hand would likely be retained for future issue. It would probably take a few years to replace existing M9s, and the 9mm ammo supply would be drawn down during that period with new purchases cut way back.
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I highly doubt anything will change. This comes up often...
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Good article, I'm looking forward to the results that are gathered from the competition.
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Some Special Ops units use .45 ACP of various kinds. I wouldn't be surprised if the Military went to Glocks or maybe even M&P. Many PDs have made the switch from Glock to M&P & they're made in the USA if that has anything to do with the choice. With this present administration I doubt that will have much to do with the decision. The only good thing, in my opinion, about the M9 was mag capacity. I still liked & trusted the 1911.
There'll be about 2000 used M&P 40 guns available soon. The Milwaukee PD is getting new ones. They switched from Glock 22 a few years back. My son was issued his new M&P 40 already. MPD Officers will get first choice on buying their old gun back.
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I had a drill sergeant that would always remind us that all our equipment was built by the lowest bidder.
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Its kinda funny (ironic) in that the civilians are always looking to the military on what to use and it looks like that we're the ones with the superior pistols. It sounds as if most if not all of the modern polymer pistols (sold to civilians) on the market today are superior to what the soldier is using in the field.
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not only that, they've got the Hague convention to adhere to. if I was limited to fmj, I'd like a larger bullet as well.
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Being the bureaucracy that it is, and that the change to 9mm was political payback to NATO, I don't see the 9mm going anywhere.
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Very Funny!
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