This is a discussion on NY forgot to exempt LEOs from the new law within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I've noticed during my long life that whenever liberals pass "feel good" laws in a hurry they always screw it up....
I've noticed during my long life that whenever liberals pass "feel good" laws in a hurry they always screw it up.
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Let's not hate on the LEO's for this one. We dont like it any more than anyone else. It was the talk of the day all the way down here in TN yesterday. Everyone was on the same page about how insane it is. Two of my NYPD buddies called me also. They too think its a horrendous abuse of law abiding citizens. Unfortunately, there is no reasoning with these people. Their heads are so far in the mud that they actually do think this will curb violent crime. No amount of scary NRA commercials or "reasoning" will change that. It sucks, and its stupid. I have a lot of friends up there who are extremely pissed off. Unfortunately they are also far outnumbered by the tiny sliver of you-know-who's known as NYC.
not hating on the LEOs. It's those above the guys on the street that make these decisions.
The shame is not what was is in the law but that it passed. New york should be very proud of itself and its subjects less so...
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I'M SO GLAD I ESCAPED BACK IN August '06! The once great Empire State now completely run by left-wing loons! I'm wondering what I could carry as a Retired NYS LEO if I went back up to visit? I guess I'll have to consult an attorney before I go ! WHAT A MESS!!
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How about us retired LEO that like to qualify under HR218. How the hell can we do a LEO qualification course with 7 rd mags? NYS FOP is looking into that one. What little respect I had for the governor is all gone now!!
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I would think HR218 trumps state law, no? HR218 says you can carry what is in YOUR department policy, and that you have qualified with. I would think you are legal carrying what you usually carry, even in NY.
However, i'm not an attorney. I'm simply guessing here. All I know for sure is its getting much more complicated as time goes on. I dont think anyone really knows the answers to these questions.
Some NY citizens with backbone ought to do citizens arrest on LEOs to make the point. Turning good people into criminals thru legislative stupidity is tyranny.
It's not a problem folks.
All it takes is the stroke of a pen by the Governor and voila... like a magic trick, the cops get all their guns back.
That's how all the laws are made in a Banana Republic.
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