Bit by the 1911 bug

Bit by the 1911 bug

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    Bit by the 1911 bug

    The last few days iv had a bug, yes the flu but also the 1911 bug. In my years owning guns, Iv only had one 1911, a Kimber Pro Carr II which I carried until I sold it to a buddy who carries it daily.

    Anyways, the last few days I have been really wanting another 1911. The thing I hated about the one I had was taking it apart and putting it back together. I have been spoiled by Glocks. At this time I do not have any intentions of replacing my G32 but I just want and have the extra funds for another tool in my box.

    The problem, the website of my LGS where i do business with shows only the ones in Kimber brand in stock. I thought my Kimber was a sweet shooter but the take down was a pain. Im looking for a Sig or Colt but those seem out of stock everywhere i look. I am not looking for a 5in as I may want to carry it, but the 3in has my eye.

    What advise would you all give?
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    Quote Originally Posted by justherenow View Post
    ...The thing I hated about the one I had was taking it apart and putting it back together...
    ...I thought my Kimber was a sweet shooter but the take down was a pain. Im looking for a Sig or Colt but those seem out of stock everywhere i look...
    What advise would you all give?
    Don't hold your breath hoping that a different 1911 is going to be any easier to take down. If it's a 1911, it's going to be essentially the same design, with the same takedown procedure.

    My most recent 1911 buy was my new SIG C3 (my current avatar). It is, IMHO, the best value out there in a higher-end 1911; a beautiful piece of work, but didn't break the bank.

    (P.S. - "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin, February 1775)
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    Glocks will spoil you for sure, but it's not a 1911.

    With time, and experience you'll get accustomed to the breakdown and reassembly. I've got a Colt Government Model (Series 70) and a Kimber Ultra Raptor II, and both of them break down differently.

    It just takes time, and sometimes a look at the manual or a youtube video to get it down pat. Probably want to field strip it, put it back together, repeat, repeat, repeat about 10 times, and then the next time you do it, it'll click for ya.

    Good luck.
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    I've got a Colt Commander and the breakdown isn't that bad once you get the hang of it. I don't need any special tools for a basic strip.
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    Your Kimber has a safety mechanism that most other 1911s don't have. Colt Series 80 pistols have one that the Kimbers don't have. Both of these add a step or two to stripping and reassembly. "Series 70" style pistols don't have either. This type is easier to deal with, but none of them are difficult.

    1911s with a GI guide rod setup are generally easier to strip and assemble as well (for me personally). No tool, with the exception of a bushing wrench on some, is needed for the task. Some folks strip these by turning the bushing first to release the plunger and spring. Others remove the entire slide first via the slide stop before breaking down the slide assembly. To each his own.

    In my opinion the 1911 is what a handgun should be. I prefer the commander length slide (4.25") or the full size government length, both for carry and range time.

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    The thing I love about 1911 flu is that it's re-occurring, you have it for life. Stripping them becomes as easy as a Glock once you've done it enough.

    The deal with the 3" models is that the timing becomes critical during its operation, there's no room for error. I have a cheap ATI 3" that runs fine, but it took some TLC on my part to smooth it out.

    I do have a phobia toward any firearm that requires a separate tool to take down. The first thing I did to a Springfield loaded model that had a full length guide rod was to swap it out for a GI guide rod from Brownells. Deadguy's gentle guidance toward commander length or full size is good advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHEC724 View Post
    The thing I love about 1911 flu is that it's re-occurring, you have it for life.
    ...and to some, this is a curse.

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    I use the plastic bushing wrench that came with my Remington R1 1911, but I could field strip it without one. It's simply a convenience factor.

    I love the 1911 platform but since I just bought one, I might have to scratch a few other itches before my next 1911.

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    Hi I'm Fin and I have a 1911 problem....

    The 1911 12-step program isn't complete until you own a dozen...

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    GASP!!!!!!

    "Spoiled by Glocks."

    BLASPHEMY! HIGH TREASON!!!!


    The 1911 platform is John Moses Browning's path to sainthood. There's a reason it has been around for more than 100 years and is now the most customized, copied and coveted pistol design ever.

    It is actually rather easy to take down. I pop mine apart in about 30 seconds, if that, and clean everything that needs cleaning in a couple of minutes.

    I carry a vintage Combat Commander nearly every day. Waited for years to get one and it's got the holster wear to prove it because it has been my primary carry piece for the past few years.

    Prior to that, I carried an Oly Arms Street Deuce, custom built for me by pistol maestro Richard Niemer. Also a Springfield 1911A1NM, and a Kimber compact. All are extremely reliable and accurate.

    I also have a couple of Detonics pistols and a Commander-sized Auto Ordnance, and I must be forgetting a few others (tsk!)

    Yet there is nary a single tupperware gun in my armory.

    On the upside, Glocks are simple and accurate, and according to folks who carry them daily, extremely reliable. One of my best pals carries a 10mm Glock and he loves it.
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    Re: Bit by the 1911 bug

    Well I bought a new Sig,report and pics posted

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    My first 1911 was a Kimber Ultra Carry II that I had before getting my CC license. Never had a problem with it and it ran flawlessly. When I finally decided to carry I did a lot of reading and fell victim to the 3" vs 4.25" or 5" debate. Traded the 3" for a Kimber Carry. Never carried that either some reason. I was still looking for the perfect EDC. Had some $$$ burning a hole in my pocket and decided I needed a SS Ed Brown Kobra Carry....beautiful piece. Carried that for awhile although the 4.25" length stuck out below my sweaters or sweatshirts. Was at a LGS and spotted a Sprigfield EMP9......had to have it. Carried that for a long time and it ran great. Found some more $$$$ in my pocket and Wilson Combat just comes out with the Spec Ops 9.....wow this can hold a lot more rounds......had to have it and got it. Then Ed Brown comes out with the Kobra Carry Light Weight.....wow.....very light and more stopping power.....bought it.

    Somewhere in the mix a Sig P238 showed up (great for summer carry) along with a FN 5.7 and a couple wheel guns.

    Long story short.......my EDC has been the EMP9 and sometimes the P238. Told myself I need to re-look at the 3" .45's again for my EDC because it packs more punch. Found a Colt New Agent Talo last week and the rest is history.

    The 1911 madness never ends............and I can usually talk myself into anything.....LOL

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    Sure is a pretty Colt. I looked at a couple Colts at the LGS but I wanted stainless/silver over the Blued this time, plus the Sig price was more in line of what I wanted to pay.
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    Just bought a Para Ordinance 1911 full size Expert and I absolutely love it. I can have it down in about 30 seconds or less. But, you are intrested in smaller versions of the 1911. I like the full size. Sorry, I`m no help
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    Count me a 1911 "fanboy" as well.

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