I'll take the .357 mag
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I'll take the .357 mag
A LTTLE TRAINING IS A DANGEROUS THING ....
Depends. If I anticipate a close-in, bad-breath, single mugger business- the J frame with hot CorBon 125 gr loads. Press to the torso, and get some use out of the muzzle blast.
In an NPE, where groups of two+ BG s are the norm, the PPK with reloads.
Sorry, but the, "if you run out of ammo, you're in too deep" stuff is crap. Anybody here diabetic, have a heart condition, high BP, etc.? Do you carry extra medication when you travel? Life should not be valued by the lowest common denominator.
I got both also with extra mag and speedloader.
Get both...you'll be glad you did...
" Refuse to be a victim, make sure there is a round chambered ! "
Just call me a pessimistic optimist !
U.S. Navy vet 1981-1992
I'd carry a 625 so I had a club in case I missed 6 times; which, isn't likely.
I've carried a Bersa .380 with 102gr. Golden Sabers and I've carried my S&W642 with Gold Dots or Golden Sabers. I'm very comfortable with both.
I plan on moving while shooting....getten outta Dodge!
I hate to be a fence sitter but, I have carried both and do not feel naked with either.
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I carry a .380 as backup, and not a .357. I'm much, much faster with reloads, can reliably strike targets with the .380 in a way that I cannot with a revolver. Sure, some of that is training time, but for me (in training) a snubbie .357 simply doesn't result in the on-target lead that a semi-auto does.
With two guns that close, I'd choose the one with the higher capacity and faster, idiot-proof reload.
I think that people here (myself included) sometimes have too high of confidence in their shooting skills during a real situation. I've seen a couple videos and heard of multiple stories of gun battles occurring at distances as short as across the hood of a car with no one hitting anything.
The truth is, when in your first couple of gun battles, we all lose our focus and hit air more than anything. In such a situation, I want the gun that gives me more chances.
Not that I don't like the revolver...carried one for a long while. But the difference between 380 and 38 is neglible, so give more, faster.
which one I shoot the best regardless of the caliber
My vote is for the snubbie...slightly better ballistics, simpler operation and greater dependability.
"It's a big gun when I carry it, it is also a big gun when I take it out” – Clint Smith
My two primary carry guns hold 11 & 14 rds respectively. I also carry an extra magazine for each in case of a malfunction or lost/dropped mag, which means I have 22-28 shots available to me. For a compact, concealed carry gun, that's a lot of ammunition, even when compared to most full size guns. Even the LEO's I know seldom carry more than 2 spare magazines for their duty guns unless they already KNOW they are going into a possible gun fight.
I'm not an LEO and do not plan on spending time in Iraq or any other war zone. Consider the statistics showing that aside from the rare LEO shootout, fewer than a half dozen rounds are fired by both sides - in total - in the VAST MAJORITY (I've read stats that say well in excess of 90% for non-gang related shootings) of gunfights. If you carry a loaded gun for protection and carry a reload, it would seem that would be more than enough unless you plan to get into a gang war. I really believe that's the true meaning behind the comment that "if it takes more than... and you run out of ammo...", not that you should never be prepared with a backup or alternatives.
I think we are often too judgemental of other peoples personal choices, especially if they don't fall in line with our own opinions. Whether someone has a single, 5 shot .38, or carries around a 15 round semi-auto in .45 ACP and 4 extra magazines, we should applaud everyone who's willing to carry any weapon for personal defense, period. At least they are not acting like waiting to be led to the slaughter.
Last edited by rachilders; November 2nd, 2006 at 01:57 PM.
"... Americans... we want a safe home, to keep the money we make and shoot bad guys." -- Denny Crane
I only carry revolvers. Today it's a 617 7 shot 357 (back pocket), 605 5 shot 357 (IWB), SP101 5 shot 357 (front pocket). 2 6 shot speed strips for reload. Benchmade Knife, Pepperspray, and a Streemlight Flashlight.