Thoughts on trigger kits for EDC gun

Thoughts on trigger kits for EDC gun

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    Thoughts on trigger kits for EDC gun

    Recently lightened my glock 26 to about 4lbs with the ghost rocket kit. Now considering changing my xd & shield triggers as well. Has anyone else done this and encountered problems or recommend against altering triggers for EDC ?


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    Lightening any trigger from the original factory poundage is an area that has received litigation in the past. That is why most police departments have opted to either stay with the factory poundage or, as is the case with Glocks, increase the poundage (eg. NY1 trigger). Having been a police officer I can tell you not all District Attorneys will be 2nd Amendment friendly. Other will try to hang you for lightening a trigger by presenting the case that you "set up a hair trigger situation" by making the trigger lighter. Personally, I like the NY1 triggers in Glocks after I had some range time to get the feel for them. Once I purchase a Glock I will typically put a set of night sights and a NY1 trigger on them. These are the only modifications I do.
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    Its neither here nor there. As a long as you dont do anything stupid or crazy to the gun, your fine. For the liability, either you are justified or not in your shooting. Where it causes legal problems is when the shooter says something dumb like "it just went off".
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    I'm trying to think of a reason I'd buy a gun for EDC if I didn't like it as is. To me this trigger shoots like this, that trigger shoots like that, and as long as they all go bang when I pull them, they're good ones. If it were a high-dollar, precision match pistol, that's one thing. But EDC? I leave them as is. You do as you see fit for your needs and likes.
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    Every SD class I've attended recommend carring with a factory trigger. I carry a HK P2000 with a Factory V1 trigger which is the LEM light at ± 5lbs.


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    I personally have never seen any litigation specifically involving a lightened trigger. Its not illegal, the ghost triggers are a factory product with a proven design and function, there are no laws on trigger pull weight or modifications as such. I have heard many lawn chair lawyers claim they know someone who had a cousin that got hemmed up in court over a lightened trigger, but can never produce factual proof. Is it possible and plausible yes. As an LEO, I was grilled by a lawyer over whether a chain had a lock on it, disregarding the fact I arrested the suspect in question on school property clearly marked " no trespassing." But as far as it being the sword of damocles, i will believe it when I see it.

    My concern, is do you train enough to safely use a lightened trigger, than in a SHTF situation you will not discharge your weapon unintentionally due to loss in fine motor skills and the lightened trigger? If yes, have at it. If not, I advise against it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sap03 View Post
    Recently lightened my glock 26 to about 4lbs with the ghost rocket kit. Now considering changing my xd & shield triggers as well. Has anyone else done this and encountered problems or recommend against altering triggers for EDC ?
    It wouldn't concern me from a liability standpoint but reliability, yes. As a competitor in USPSA, I have dabbled with glock mods and have been around a bunch who have gone all the way, sub two lbs. shortened resets, and overtravel adjustments. I really don't see enough other platforms to pass any judgement, but anyway... It's funny, the better shooters tend to end up with near stock or stock triggers after some experimenting. I usually see people run aftermarket stuff until they experience a problem, then they realize the trigger isn't causing them to drop a lot of points anyway and go back to reliability first. I had two nice triggers in 34s but the once in every 100 light primer strike was enough to drive me back to stock, rather than experiment with softer primers.

    Shooters with a lower classification may actually be getting more marginal benefit from the mods. Yes or no, I seem to notice more B, C, and Ds running aftermarket stuff than the upper guys. The best trigger I have is a stock G 17, not including 1911s of course. I would leave stock / factory.
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    From my experience I'd say Glock (at least the Gen 3s and 4s) have some of the best out-of-the-box triggers of any of the striker fired, and even non-striker fired, pistols out there. Is it 'perfect'? Probably not, especially if you want to do some sort of competition shooting. Is it 100% usable for a SD/HD weapon? I'd say absolutely.
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    Input greatly appreciated. I suppose I was more curious about reliability. So far I love the ghost rocket, my accuracy is much improved at distances beyond 10 yards. I just figured I would try to get all my triggers to about 4lbs so I am even across the board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taurahe View Post
    My concern, is do you train enough to safely use a lightened trigger, than in a SHTF situation you will not discharge your weapon unintentionally due to loss in fine motor skills and the lightened trigger? If yes, have at it. If not, I advise against it.
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    Absolutely. I draw/dryfire everyday, I actually enjoy the practice.

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    Well, if i still had my airweight, I might put a trigger kit in it. They are quite stiff @ 12-13 lbs. Just too much even for a carry gun. Lost it in a snowstorm. Polar bear mighta ate it I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldnfat View Post
    Well, if i still had my airweight, I might put a trigger kit in it. They are quite stiff @ 12-13 lbs. Just too much even for a carry gun. Lost it in a snowstorm. Polar bear mighta ate it I think.

    I put the Apex trigger kit in my S&W Airweight, and it made a world of difference. It's still a double action revolver, but the trigger now requires much less effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taurahe View Post

    My concern, is do you train enough to safely use a lightened trigger, than in a SHTF situation you will not discharge your weapon unintentionally due to loss in fine motor skills and the lightened trigger? If yes, have at it. If not, I advise against it.
    Several years ago I switched from a stock glock to a 1911 with a nice trigger and lost a few shots while prepping the trigger at the first match, even with a lot of dry fire. The rounds were still good hits BTW because of where I prep. I recently saw a fellow shooter making a similar switch, put one in the ground 6 feet in front of his toes. Prepping the trigger this early is no faster. I'll let you draw your own conclusion here but the difference in techniques is small, practically unnoticeable, but very significant.

    In addition, I believe if you have your finger on the trigger when the boogie-man gooses your backside, the difference between a 2 lb and a 6 lb trigger won't matter.
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    I have a tendency to go with the factory trigger unless it's really bad. I even fought off the urge to install an APEX trigger mod on a Sigma 40VE, known for its heavy trigger. Mine measured at a hair over 8 lbs & I shoot it just fine. I'm perfectly satisfied with Glock & M&P stock triggers - lighter & smoother than the Sigma's but I still am as accurate with any of them. I train often & seem to get the "feel" rapidly with each. I've never felt the need for a super light trigger. I'm well used to 6 lbs up to 8 or 9. If accuracy is your main goal I'd see how you're doing with the original trigger & if you're okay with that then I'd leave well enough alone. Often times triggers will smooth out with lots of use & dry firing. Check any warranties before you make any changes.
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