Are you 'squared-away' in arms and ammo for USA of 2014, 2015 and beyond?

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    Are you 'squared-away' in arms and ammo for USA of 2014, 2015 and beyond?

    THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE, not just what you may or may not want on hand for today.

    Do you have the pistols, rifles, and shotguns that you would like to have once they are either no longer available or are priced absurdly through the ceiling (don't forget about the Dems taxing firearms and ammo through the ceiling!)? Buy now.

    Do you have the quality defensive ammo supply to last you for years to come? How about practice ammo? Practice ammo is for shooting regularly; defensive ammo is for stocking and preserving for the future. Consider that one of the assaults on our freedoms will come in the form of having to register ammunition as we buy it. And it will be taxed HEAVILY! As this economy declines into a long slow melt-down, DEMs will be looking everywhere they can to tax, tax, tax... firearms and ammunition (not to mention so many other items such as luxuries, alcohol, etc.) are likely to be taxed through the roof. Buy now.

    Certainly inflation will come sooner or later. Buy now.

    This country is changing so quickly that it is difficult to keep up with it. Few Americans even have any idea of the changes that are going on. Most Americans are so preoccupied with their silly little daily activities (Facebook, Twitter, parties, shopping, looking "cool") that they aren't paying ANY attention to what is happening in politics, government, legislation, economics, and international relations. Those of us who do pay attention and work to try to be better prepared for the future will stand a better chance of doing well when this whole mess slowly sags into the quagmire.

    When another two, three, or four years passes, I guarantee that you will have far fewer freedoms to acquire the firearms and ammunition than you have today... and if you even can acquire such at that time, it will cost you a LOT more money.

    Your best move is to do whatever you can to invest in arms and ammunition for your long-haul. I'd go into debt (not unreasonably so) to do it. Get fully well-situated NOW and then in the future, when things are sure to be changing even more rapidly than they are now, you won't find yourself in a panic/scramble mode to get yourself well-situated. You will be able to sit back and relax in your foresight and preparedness.

    Arms and ammunition will become such high value items that most who don't already have them won't be able to acquire them or to afford them. Others who are well-stocked will be able to use them quite powerfully to gain other desired goods and services.

    Arms and ammunition will ONLY be more costly to obtain and more difficult (if not impossible) to obtain as we move forward in time. Now is the best pricing and availability you are likely to ever see. I've been thinking and saying this for several years now... it was true several years ago, as it is today. If you didn't square yourself away one, two, three, or more years ago... now is better than later. Best wishes to you and may God bless our country!
    The clowns in government office see the solution to everything is write more laws, creating the ever-mounting morass of legal handicaps that we citizens must labor under.

    STATE'S RIGHTS RULE and should be INVIOLATE. Feds butt out!

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    Of course I'd wish for more but I can contrive to shoot about 2000 rounds per year until I'm in my 80s, either by using ammunition on hand or by handloading using supplies of components kept on hand. I have the guns I need for "serious" purposes and back-ups as well.

    We've seen all this before, both with the Clinton ban and with Y2K.
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    Yes, we've seen it before and will no doubt continue to see ever more of it moving forward. Increasingly so, I'm afraid. The mix of demographics in the country has slipped across a line which I think it will never come back from. The result, of course, is ever more dominant liberal control and, therefore, increasingly tight restrictions on many of our freedoms, especially with regard to firearms and ammunition.

    As was true five years ago, and continues to be true today... guns and ammo will never be as inexpensive, nor as readily available as they are today. Buy today. Be thankful tomorrow.
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    The clowns in government office see the solution to everything is write more laws, creating the ever-mounting morass of legal handicaps that we citizens must labor under.

    STATE'S RIGHTS RULE and should be INVIOLATE. Feds butt out!

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    With all the so called "gun control" laws that will be proposed in Congress and the make up of Congress, the future could very well be now..............
    "One of the greatest delusions in the world is the hope that the evils in this world are to be cured by legislation."
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    No I am not 100% prepared with everything I need, but I am working on it.

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    Hey Spencer... we're staying in Anthem right now. Beautiful, together state you have here. At least you are a resident of a State which "gets it" more than most do. That's a step in the right direction. Thanks for your service and may God bless YOU! (BTW, our son gave his life defending our freedoms, while serving in Afghanistan.)
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    The clowns in government office see the solution to everything is write more laws, creating the ever-mounting morass of legal handicaps that we citizens must labor under.

    STATE'S RIGHTS RULE and should be INVIOLATE. Feds butt out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DHart View Post
    Hey Spencer... we're staying in Anthem right now. Beautiful, together state you have here. At least you are a resident of a State which "gets it" more than most do. That's a step in the right direction. Thanks for your service and may God bless YOU! (BTW, our son gave his life defending our freedoms, while serving in Afghanistan.)
    Thank you Arizona is a great state. My condolences about your son, he is a true American hero. Thank you for raising one.
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    I am fairly well stocked if the bottom fell out tonight and I woke up tomorrow only to hear Martial Law had been declared in all 57 states. ( According to Barry Sotoro the USA comprises 57 states.)

    OTOH if I had my druthers I'd have one of those 14+1 12G's. Tho 2 would be better.

    I'd prefer to have 10 more 50R drums for my #1 10-22. Plus 30 more 25R mags for my other 10-22s. Plus 15 10R Ruger mags for my 10-22s.

    I'd prefer some nice scopes and red dot lazers on my favorite guns times 5.

    250,000R of 22.

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    For Barter purposes 10,000R Each of 45, 9mm, 10mm, 357, 38Special, 44Mag, 45-70, 223, 308, 7mm, 8mm, 30-30, 303British, 30.06, 30M1, 50BMG, 20mm, 37mm, 40mm.

    Assorted Artillery Rounds.

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    Im no where near where I want to be but working on it as quickly as funds allow. I will say that I am a bit more hopeful as state after state rears up and in essence tells the Feds nope not here.

    I think possibly a turning point has been reached where enough states and citizens are sending the message to the Feds that they are on a line they likely do not wish to cross. I hope with all my being change can be one in the ballot box. I think it can if the current power grabbers do not over estimate their ability to force this nation into submission to their will and not give the ballot time to happen.
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    Can you ever really have enough?

    But seriously, I'm better off than I had been, but not quite where I want to be.
    As to bartering ammo, I'd have to be damn sure of someone before I would ever give them ammo.

    Something else to consider. I saw this signature line on another site: If you can't defend it, you're just holding it for the next owner.
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    Don't sweat tomorrow. It just ruins today.

    I have enough handgun ammo to last awhile, but not enough to shoot as often. I roll my own for my rifles, and have a fair amount for my shotguns. Ammo is like money: you can't have too much. So I buy as I can, like everybody else.

    I've kept my finger on the pulse, written the congressmen and senators. But unless they want an open insurrection on their hands, which they might, they know they can't see it through. They just want job security. Doubtful if any politicians see the second amendment as anything other than a vote getter or loser.

    Anyway, a guy can't stock up for real nowadays. No ammo to buy. I don't stress. The bill will fail, and that will be that. Or it'll pass, and the war will begin. Either way, I can't find a box of 9 to save my bacon.

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    The bill may fail. But that wouldn't be much reassurance. Just a temporary lull. And that would be no reason NOT to get well squared-away NOW.

    And if it doesn't fail? Sheesh. There are so many dependent people in the USA right now, growing more every day. People who will vote for politician who offers more liberal hand outs and social programs. Unfortunately, those are the same politicians who are working feverishly to crush conservatism, heavily tax those who ARE working hard and producing great results in doing so, and take away our firearms freedoms. Sadly, there are so many people who don't recognize that firearms freedoms are a safety net, not a threat to safety.

    Regardless of the outcome of the current push for legislation, firearms and ammunition will never be less expensive nor as readily available as they are now. That seems to have become a law of nature over the last five years or so.

    I'm somewhat doubtful that we will experience a complete meltdown with widespread civil break down of law and order. But I wouldn't be at all surprised if, as we slowly sink lower and lower, that there will be local rioting now and again. And no doubt there will be people who didn't prepare or plan and their program will just be to TAKE from those who did prepare and plan.

    I believe being well armed will be increasingly important moving forward. Katrina showed us that once law and order breakdown, you're essentially on your own when it comes to defending yourself and yours. At times, there will be no one to answer 911, nor to come to your rescue! Having a couple of boxes of ammo on the shelf simply won't bring much comfort. I think at minimum, each of us should have a few thousand rounds of ammo put back. Is it hard to find and getting very expensive? IT IS!!! But it's not going to get any better... get what you can when you can! If you wait another year to do this... it's only likely to cost a HECK of a lot more than it does today.

    Certainly, almost none of us can stock enough guns and ammo to never be concerned about it lasting decades in front of us. My point of the thread was to give a bump to those of us who would like to be reasonably well squared-away, but haven't yet done much about it. Today it takes more work and more money to find and buy guns and ammo. But it's likely to only get worse, down the road. Time's a wastin' folks. Buy today, be thankful tomorrow.
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    The clowns in government office see the solution to everything is write more laws, creating the ever-mounting morass of legal handicaps that we citizens must labor under.

    STATE'S RIGHTS RULE and should be INVIOLATE. Feds butt out!

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    Not quite there just yet. I have a good AR (Ruger SR556), a scoped 10-22, 870 rem, 9mm semi, .380 semi, and .357 mag wheel gun. Plenty of mags. What I would like next is a decent bolt scout rifle. I've been looking at the Ruger Gunsite Scout. That will be next and a good quality scope for it.

    Always need more ammo. I should have been stocking for a long time, but never got around to it. Now I'm in the same boat as everybody else.
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    The problem with a lot of us is the fact that between Rent/Mortgage, Groceries,Gas,Monthly bills etc. being able to buy 100 rounds of ammo a week or a month to practice with stretches the wallet,so trying to stockpile ammo and supplies can be a problem especially if the other 1/2 doesn't agree with you and thinks they need a pair of shoes or a purse,or beer and game tickets etc if the gun person is female, before you need ammo
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    Nowhere near where I would like to be, but decent enough to be able to defend my property and family. I made a strong investment in the past few months and I now have an AR-15 equipped with an Aimpoint red dot and Magpul accessories, a Remington 700 SPS Tactical in .308W with a Bushnell Elite Tactical scope, a Remington 597 .22LR with a Bushnell Rimfire scope, a Mossberg 590A1 12 gauge shotgun, various HK, Walther, Sig Sauer, S&W, Beretta and Glock pistols chambered in 9mm, .40 S&W, .38SPL, .380 ACP, and .45ACP and about 12,000 rounds of ammo and plenty of mags on hand. I would like to add a .300 Blackout upper for my AR, a second shotgun and more ammo/mags.
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