New Pony in the Stable

New Pony in the Stable

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    New Pony in the Stable

    Saturday I bought a F. I. (Firearms International) Model D .380 caliber pistol. I haven't had a chance to shoot it, but mentioned yesterday that I would post pictures today.





    It has some wear, but appears to be in very good condition. I disassembled it, inspected it, did a little cleaning, lubricated, and reassembled it. Everything works springs appear to be in good shape. I even disassembled the mag and, except for a little dust stuck in some oil in it, it appears to be in good condition also. There is an earlier thread (Help w/380 Auto identification) in which a member asked about a Model D and wondered about the Colt emblem on the grip. Below is a close up of the emblem on my grip. It is an F. I. emblem. Since the Model in the other thread had one grip with no emblem and one with a Colt emblem I see two possibilities. Someone could have replaced one of the grips with one from a Colt Pony, or more likely, some one got an F. I. grip that had the F. I. emblem in it and replaced it with a Colt emblem. This is what the F. I. emblem on mine looks like.



    In the other thread there is a reference to a website with info about the Model D, the Colt Pony, and the Iver Johnson Pony. The website has the following statement:

    For some reason, after this product was announced, the Colt/Star partnership was dissolved and very few Colt-branded guns seem to have been sold. Iver Johnson bought the U.S. manufacturing rights to the gun, and sold a number of them. Apparently quite a few frames were made in anticipation of the Colt deal, as all the early Johnson serial numbers start with "CPA" (Colt Pony Automatic).
    I don't know if it is of any significance, but the serial number on my F. I. starts with "CPA" as well. Maybe some of our experts can shed some light on this. Are you listing, Bob (CLASS3NH)?
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    Oooo, I like the looks of that little gun. Let us know how it shoots when you get it out to the range, George. That would fit in the console of my truck....
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    That is one sweet .380 George.

    I am glad for you that you found it - it is one of the few items i still have on my list in fact. Thx for the nice pic's.
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    Thats looks like a neat little gun how about showing parts as it is apart

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    I figured you'd pick up something. Thats just one of the reasons I didn't go.
    Very nice George.....
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    Bumper & Chris, you should hear from CLASS3NH as soon as he sees this thread. KTP has one in stock and because you mentioned it he will be putting it aside with which ever name responds first. The one KTP has is an Iver Johnson. Hide your wallets.
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    I saw the ktp one tonight. It's nice, considered it, but I already had just put a Rossi lightweight snub with CT grips on hold....

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    Wow! I haven't seen one of those in years!
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    Field Stripped

    Here you go, Bud. Looks just like a 1911. Comes apart pretty much the same way.

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    Thanks george Looks pretty much like a 1911 when it come apart

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    I have one just like yours and the SN# starts with a CPA as well. I shot it again yesterday for another 50rnds. and this damn thing is accurate. I will post pics tonight with the OWB Bianchi holster that I bought. I did have some issues with the gun and I'm still trying to figure it out.

    1. When fired, once in a while the slide locks back (using .380 90 gr. Independence) so I ended up releasing the slide lock. According to the range employee I might be unconsiously activating the slide lock during firing. It could be, or maybe limp wristing it or maybe due to the ammo brand change. This is after the range time and I was not able to correct it or experiment on it. Until next week I will post my findings. Once this issue is resolved and few hundred rounds I will be carrying this piece.

    2. There are a lot or sharp edges on this and will collect lints during cleaning (using Nylon brush is the way to go). Maybe beacuse mine looks like it is still in the break-in stage. But it's fun to clean unlike my Glocks.

    3. I couldn't find anymore Mags. Even the link below run out of inventory.

    Do you mind if I asked how much you paid for this Gun (you can PM me).

    I love it and I will be keeping this one for a long time...

    This link might be usefull: http://www.gun-parts.com/firearmsinternational/
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr_cmg View Post
    Bumper & Chris, you should hear from CLASS3NH as soon as he sees this thread. KTP has one in stock and because you mentioned it he will be putting it aside with which ever name responds first. The one KTP has is an Iver Johnson. Hide your wallets.

    George!! GREAT FIND!! and yes......the one at the store looks LIKE NEW and is Nickel in finish.. LOL........I've had several of them (the FI model D and a couple Iver Johnsons) They all work well, and you'll find it to hide very well also........They have the same controls as a 1911 series.. I found my Model Ds to eat everything, including my own reloads.. 90 gr Sierra mixed with 2.4 gr of PB powder..
    I've been having the drool factor on that little gun at the Store.. BUT I'm sure one of you (Bumper, Chris, and a few more) might just want one.........Garcia International (another early Mfgr of this gem) made em in the early to mid 70s and they went under.. I hope you find the above info usable.....and there's plenty of mags and part to be had for these nice guns.....Let us know how you make out with it......and maybe you'll want the one at the store...........as it's nickel...
    I'm working there tonight (Tuesday and Friday 5-9pm and in the daytime Sat and Sunday) we have a 7-day hold (no $$ down) and 60-day hold W/20% down......"just in case" and we'll send you pics if you see something you really want........before you but it... Kinda make it waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too easy LMAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamz View Post
    I saw the ktp one tonight. It's nice, considered it, but I already had just put a Rossi lightweight snub with CT grips on hold....
    How bout a Rossi 3 incher blue?? 38spl.............125.00?? 2 inch stainless in box as new 165.00 I took it in on Saturday.....LOL...........I also found a couple of nice items (that I'm picking up) LOL.........in the 38 spl and 357 mag J frame class
    (640 W CT grips for 340.00) yikes........ am I doing it again? buying things and posting?
    I also found a nice SKS paratrooper carbine with 16 1/4 inch BBL that takes the AK 47 mags...about 170.00 I also found a High Standard Sentinel Revolver 9 shot 2 inch nickel 22 mag for cheapo bucks as well....( 112.50 after the discount) ......geeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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    Oh shucks - Class3, the ''mighty tempter'' has appeared

    I sure would like one Bob but it ain't high enough up the list if truth be known - even tho these days that list is no longer very large.

    I am still seeing if that MkIV ever comes to fruition tho I really have a pretty limited gun-buying kitty these days.
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    Well here's the twin brother of "dr_cmg's" FI Model D. The difference is the grip panels doesn't have any medalion. BTW, thanks dr_cmg for the links you sent me. Enjoy...

    and

    with 105 Minimalist Bianchi Holster (OWB). Conceals good with just a regular shirt.
    Last edited by CALIX; November 7th, 2006 at 08:06 PM.

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