IN compact Glocks why carry a 9mm or 40 when you can carry a 45acp?

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    Yes there is wisdom,steel and lead in your words.Most the time I,m fine with a 5 shot J-frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fowler View Post
    Yes thats why the FBI HRT,L.A. Swat-team,Marine special units ,Delta ,carry 7 shot-1911,s in 45acp. It gets -ur-done where the 9mm-40sw are not trusted by the elite units. 7 rds of 45acp is alot of killing that can be counted on. Use enough gun. A smaller gun may work most of the time,but when that big exception comes up your dead meat with the lesser rounds. You only live once.
    FWIW, the pistol is a secondary weapon to them, and, at least in the case of one of those groups, they shoot for the head if they have to use the pistol

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    Quote Originally Posted by fowler View Post
    Yes thats why the FBI HRT,L.A. Swat-team,Marine special units ,Delta ,carry 7 shot-1911,s in 45acp.
    1. Whether or not the above is true in all cases is questionable, and we don't know under what circumstances these choices are being made.

    2. I am none of the above, and I don't presume to be able to shoot as well as many of them can. I don't care how well they can shoot, I care how well I can shoot.

    3. Some of them are probably restricted to ball ammo. If all I had available to me was ball, I might opt for the larger caliber as well.

    4. There's plenty of room for debate over which premium rounds, in which calibers, and under what circumstances, offer the greatest performance. If you're looking for a flamewar or caliber debate, I really wish you would have it elsewhere.

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    I carry a .45 with 7 round capacity as my EDC. I also have a .40 with 9 round capacity. I'm considering getting a glock 9mm, not because of the capacity or small size, but just because I'm a gun freak. I'd have every gun out there if I could afford it. But I don't really understand the big debate over 9mm vs .40 vs .45. They're all bullets and they all can kill someone just as easily. Does anyone honestly think that one would ever need more than 6-7 rounds in a self-defense situation? In most situations you're not going to be but a few feet from your so called "attacker". One or two shots at that distance would be plenty. Any more than than and the use of excessive force would definitely be an issue. If your far enough away that you can't hit your target 1) you should hit the range more or 2) you should retreat and avoid the unnecessary consequences that could possibly occur, unless it's clear cut. There's a lot of gray areas when defending yourself. I just feel that unless your an officer or a soldier on active duty in another country, you'll most likely never need that much ammo. I would feel just as comfortable carrying 2 rounds of 9 mm. If you do need to fire more than that then most likely the "other guy" has a gun also and he's probably already shot you.

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    I have small hands, so a large-framed Glock is harder to hold and control than the smaller framed Glocks. The G36 had some issues and I'm not fully convinced they have all been rectified.

    Further, I'd rather get a 10mm than a .45 ACP...that includes in the Glock line.
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    What were the issues with the G36, please?
    I like to get this information about guns I might ever possibly consider getting. If there's something bad about them, I want to know well ahead of time. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peacefuljeffrey View Post
    What were the issues with the G36, please?
    I like to get this information about guns I might ever possibly consider getting. If there's something bad about them, I want to know well ahead of time. Thanks.
    http://www.combatcarry.com/vbulletin...ad.php?t=16623

    Note the link on post #9.

    Research the G36 on Glock Talk as well; I thought that's where I first heard of the G36's problems.
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    What would you want with a six-round capacity Glock anyway?

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    Its 7 shot of 45acp same as most 1911 compacts and full size. Hum its enough for a 1911. Why would anybody want a 7 shot 1911?

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    Nothing wrong with 9mm or .40 S&W. Back in the days of FMJ only bullets I think Caliber made moe of a difference.

    WARNING: Lets not make this a caliber war, or the thread gets closed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocky View Post
    Nothing wrong with 9mm or .40 S&W. Back in the days of FMJ only bullets I think Caliber made moe of a difference.

    WARNING: Lets not make this a caliber war, or the thread gets closed.
    Ditto, in the days of really nice, light JHP ammo, I carry a 9mm with confidence. However, if I lived in NJ and could not carry HPs, I'd probably opt for just a .45 or 10mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mass-Diver View Post
    Ditto, in the days of really nice, light JHP ammo, I carry a 9mm with confidence. However, if I lived in NJ and could not carry HPs, I'd probably opt for just a .45 or 10mm
    another thing I have found out the hard way. If its possible, make sure the weapon is not finicky on bullet weight / type. An example is my para with the 3.5" barrel. 230 gr. roundball shoots at 8 o'clock two inches from the bullseye. Tight groups nevertheless, and the setting the drift sights don't help. So I have to go to a lighter bullet or another barrel...
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    Like most things (except reliability) in CCW it is a trade off. I chose the .40 because for me it was the best compromise between the capacity of the 9mm and the size/power of the .45. Basically, it makes me happy and gives me confidence. Any of the three will perform, if you put the shot where it needs to be.
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    Many interesting posts...

    Personally, I carry a Kahr PM9 or a Glock 36. It really depends on what I'm wearing & where I'm going. The higher the threat, that 36 comes on. While I'm fairly accurate with my PM9, I'm VERY accurate with my 36. In fact, I'm more accurate with it than I was with my 21 when I used to carry that for patrol.

    I believe shot placement is far more important than caliber though.

    When I worked patrol, I wore a Glock 21 with a 26 as my back-up (Inially, it was a S&W J frame). The 9mm seemed to let me shoot better follow-up shots than the .45. All that went out the window with my 36. I probably would shoot equal or more accurate with a light-pull SA, but I don't own any to test that theory out. All of my guns are stock, except for sites & round extenders on some of my magazines, so it's not the trigger pull weight.

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    Yes the g36 is very accurate and the 45acp inheirity more accurate round than the 9mm or 40sw.

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