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This is a discussion on New P226 Advice within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Hi Everyone, I recently purchased a new Sig P226. Here are the specs: SIG W2269SP 226 9MM SRT LEGACY SLD NS:SIG W2269SP 226 9MM SRT ...
I recently purchased a new Sig P226. Here are the specs:
SIG W2269SP 226 9MM SRT LEGACY SLD NS:SIG W2269SP 226 9MM SRT LEGACY SLD NS - Similar to the P226 Nitron but has the Sig night sights and Short reset trigger. You will not find this item number on the Sig Sauer web sight, these are limited special configuration guns. Item Number W226-9-SP: Caliber 9mm,: Action Type DA/SA: Trigger Pull DA 10.0 lbs: Trigger Pull SA 4.4 lbs: Overall Length 7.70 in: Overall Height 5.5 in: Overall Width 1.5 in: Barrel Length 4.4 in: Sight Radius 6.3 in: Weight w/Mag 34.0 oz: Mag Capacity Two 9mm, 15 Rounds each: Sights SIGLITE® Night Sights: Grips Rosewood Frame Finish Black Hard Anodized Slide Finish Nitron® Accessory Rail Yes Features Accessory Rail No fees for CC use.
Now, my questions. It says it has Sig Night Sights. I received the pistol and did the transfer. A couple of days later, I noticed they are not night sights, they are standard sights. I thought maybe they are the glow and the dark style that need to be "charged." So I called Sig and gave them the S/N and Sig said the model does not include night sights. I have contacted the seller and he has been very helpful. He said his salesman said it includes night sights. Long story short, about a week later, the salesman said it was a mistake and the pistol does not have night sights. The seller is willing to return the gun and give me a refund. I have already transferred and fired about 100 rounds through it in the 3 or so weeks I have had it. I really like the gun and do not want to return it.
So, what are my options? Suck it up and deal, return the gun. I personally think that Sig and the salesman are responsible for the ad. Since I bought the gun based on the ad, with night sights, I would be happy if they just sent me the sights and we can move on. Am I asking too much?
Thanks for your insight.
I'd work a deal with him to pay for some night sights. They retail for ~$75 direct from Sig. Probably about as much as it would cost in shipping/transfer fees for you to send it back and get a new pistol (from him or another seller).
Cons: He ends up being out the bucks for the sights. You end up being out $50 to have them installed.
Pros: He doesn't end up with a used pistol and keeps a happy customer. You get to keep a pistol you like... and a fine one at that.
Just my opinion, but I would keep that gun for the short extractor over returning it for a long extractor model with night sights. The short extractor is much more reliable than the newer re-designed MIM part. Sig is known to build many "special configuration" guns, most are from left over parts they are using up; yours seems to have a "classic" or Sig termed "legacy" slide and for me that is a good buy. If it were my P226 I would replace the front sight with a Tritium night sight and leave the rear sight alone.
Was this a store flyer ad that said it had night sights? If so most flyers have a notice in it that not responsible for misprints. If the box it came in stated it had night sights, then you might have a basis for forcing the issue. Myself, if I liked the gun, I'd suck it up and move on. You can always put after market night sights on it. The other option is see if the seller will split the cost of having night sights installed.
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Sig has no responsibility in this. It falls entirely on the seller. If you like the gun then you have a few choices. One: return the gun and get your money back two: find out what the price differenc is between the models with night sights and without, and ask for that back from the seller, then apply it to the purchase of the sights Three: Do nothing and enjoy your new gun. Which choice to make is entirely up to you. if it were me..... I would start with choice 2, and if that was not doable..... i would prob go with choice 3. choice 1 would be my flat out last resort. Also, because you have fired the gun, they may only take it back as a used gun and not a new one. This happened to me in the past. That will have to be handled by the dealer and you.
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Your points are shallow... my points are Hollow....
Definetly keep it get your own sights worth it
I know this gun. I just bought a Sig P226 Combat yesterday. I have learned the hard way, like you, that you need to look up the model number on the manufacturer's website. That is why most places often have disclaimers about the guns they show in their ads. I bought my P226 online because my local gun store only had the Sigs without the night sights. Seems that Sig is dumping them on the market due to the gun shortage. For me it made no sense to spend that kind of money and than have to spend $100+ to put night sights on it.
I also think that you will discover that those fine looking wooden grips are thick. I had the same gun in the P229 model and had to swap out the wooden grips for a pair of the thin plastic ones. It did look great with the wooden grips though. As far as what you should do it depends on your use of the gun. I see no use for night sights on most of my guns except those I use for home defense. In fact, the Sig night sights kind of such for daytime use. They are small and hard to see compared to the sights on some of my other guns.
If it is a range gun I would just keep it the way it is as the night sights would make any difference. I have mixed feelings about night sights because if it is too dark to see your sights it is usually too dark to see your target. Even if you are in the dark and your target is standing under a lamp post, your regular sights will be silhouetted and useable. I much prefer to carry a small and powerful penlight and use that at night when I go out. In my houses I have a 600 lumen Streamlight handheld and 200 lumen rail light in each home defense gun. To me, flashlights are the way to go and a flashlight will wash out night sights and make them useless. Try it sometime to see for yourself.
As far as what you should do. Well there was false advertising here even if it was unintentional. Whether you shot it or not they should take care of you someway. My LGS has given me choices of a full refund or store credit whenever I buy a gun from them that has problems out of the box and it cannot be fixed quickly. It is up to you to decide if you want to keep the gun or not. Since night sights usually add about $100 or so to the cost of a gun, you should either get a credit for the cost of having Sig night sights installed or they should pay for the full shipping cost to return the gun to you and give you a full refund. I hope that you paid by credit card as I always do. That gives you a lot of bargaining power. That is why even with Bud's I do not pay by check. There is no recourse that way and I consider the extra 3% to be my cost of insurance and I have used it effectively in the past. So if you want the gun I would ask them for a credit so that you can have night sights installed locally. You really should not have shot it without first checking to see if the gun was as advertised so they may have you there if you are not a steady customer. It would not make any sense if you had to pay to ship it back to have them replace it as you would be out of pocket for the shipping costs which are not cheap. Hopefully you were smart enough to use a credit card and can tell the bank to put a hold on the payment due to a dispute. The banks almost always side with the cardholder in such matters.
No matter what you decide, whatever you do should not cost you any more money. If they advertised night sights they are legally obligated to provide them at no additional cost.
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I have the P226 MK25 and it's a sweet gun. It has factory night sights, although I think they're pretty dim and no more effective than the DayGlo-Orange paint I've used on my other firearms. I haven't been impressed with any night sights I've seen, but that's just me.
If you really like the firearm, my suggestion is that rather than go through the pain of swapping guns, try to work a deal for a discount on night sights. It will probably a win/win for all involved.
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I tried to look it up on the Sig site before I bought it. It did not say anything about the model. I called them and they said they have a special run every once in awhile that will not show up on the site, like Mathew said. From my understanding, this is a Legacy P226 slide on a MK25 frame. I did not ask them about the sights since it said right in the ad it had them. I got this from Gunbroker and there are still a few on there. They all say night sights as well.
Thanks for the advice everyone. This is going to be more of a range gun, so the night sights are not necessary, however it was a selling point for the gun and one of the reasons I went with this one. The price was not bad, even without the sights, so I am sure I will keep it. I just think if they say it has night sights, it should have night sights. I really like the gun and I shoot well with it. I have asked if they would be willing to send me the sights and I will have them put on, or to compensate me for the difference in price. Hopefully it all works out.
My CC/home defense piece is an M&P40 (If IL ever gets their head out of their.....) I took them both to the range the week I got the Sig. I shot the M&P first. Then I loaded up the Sig, pulled the trigger and sat there for a minute. I was not sure if I shot a round. I looked down and saw a hole dead center at 15 yards. I loved it right there. Compared to the 40, its like shooting a BB gun.
Stuff happens, however much it sucks.
I would keep the gun, buy some sights for it. Simplest, least stress option in my opinion.
If the seller is helpful, ask the seller for:
1. A set of night sights and some extra money to have them installed.
2. A partial refund to cover the difference in cost between night sight and non-night sight models.