Someone, take my safety - PLEASE!
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June 19th, 2013 04:06 PM
Someone, take my safety - PLEASE!
I'm not a fan of safeties on carry guns. I know this is a controversial subject and I've had many intense debates with my friends online about it. I felt it was time to explain, in as much details as I thought you might be able to bear, what my position was.
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Of course I welcome your opinions and even your opposing views.
June 19th, 2013 04:09 PM
No safety on my carry guns except 1911's or BHP....Glock 19 is my carry of choice.
A safety IMO gives the user a false sense of security, and in no way makes up for inexperience, lack of training, or unsafe gun handling.
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June 19th, 2013 04:11 PM
+1 for the Glocks.....I'm with Zonker on this one.
Originally Posted by zonker1986
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June 19th, 2013 04:12 PM
Someone, take my safety - PLEASE!
I'd be more than willing to take any remaining 1911s or any rifles off your hands that include a manual safety.
June 19th, 2013 04:17 PM
I've never considered the Glock trigger safety a safety at all, seeing as anything that fits inside the trigger guard will defeat it--coins, keys, and errant shirttails. And like you, I don't care for external safeties that can be missed or forgotten in the heat of an adrenaline rush. My preference is a good DA/SA action. Yeah, I will agree that that first DA shot won't be as accurate as the following ones, but that only means if I'm aiming for your nose I'll probably put the bullet in your mouth instead. But I do carry a Glock and it non-safety also.
In the end, it's a personal preference as to which safeties one wants if any at all. To each his (her) own. Just practice with the firearm of your choice.
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June 19th, 2013 04:18 PM
With modern handguns and safe action trigger assemblies the best and most trusted safety is your brain..Don't touch the trigger unless you're going to discharge the weapon..Now if you have untrained people or children at home then sorry but at home you keep your weapon unloaded and stored with a rail lock through the mag well....That's just the way it has to be.....
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June 19th, 2013 04:21 PM
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June 19th, 2013 04:24 PM
To learn to use a safety is much easier than learning to use a trigger properly. It is just one more thing to learn about your gun. You learn trigger control, tap, rack, bang drill (many I know do not even know what that means), proper stance, proper grip and proper sight alignment. So why draw the line at learning to use a manual safety? The so called Glock safeties are there to protect the manufacturer from lawsuits. A gun goes off either by dropping it so that the firing pin hits the round or the trigger is pressed. Unless both methods are blocked by a safety, it is not a safety. Relying on our brains to be a safety is unrealistic as our minds are not perfect and as proof of that just look all around you at things that are there to protect us from ourselves. I doubt that anyone is the exception to making mental mistakes.
Try Google to find how many people died as a result of a manual safety and you may be surprised to find that more lives are saved by them and lucky to find more than one or two documented instances of someone being killed due to a manual safety.
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June 19th, 2013 04:40 PM
No manual thumb safety preferred here, for myself. Other than my very first handgun, every single one since then has been safety-less.
Interesting article, though. Lots of things to consider, for anyone evaluating the pros/cons of the use of manual safeties.
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June 19th, 2013 04:50 PM
This thread is just another "caliber wars" variant.
To safety or not to safety... Chambered or not.... 9mm or .45....
June 19th, 2013 04:52 PM
Safety's aren't that big of a deal to me. If the firearm has one I'll use it, if not, no big deal.
Besides, relying on safety's is not the best way to keep a gun safe.
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June 19th, 2013 04:55 PM
I don't own a firearm that doesn't have a safety and won't have one that doesn't. I have never had a problem getting the safety off, it just takes practice. A safety is just another layer of safety to prevent the firearm from being discharged except with intent, to be used with all the other safety layers that are put in place by proper firearm handling rules.
June 19th, 2013 04:57 PM
I just do not understand the absolute terror of having a safety on a weapon; I’ve carried 1911s for many years without a problem. Most of my other guns are revolvers and of course they do not have safeties and I do not worry about carrying them either.
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June 19th, 2013 05:00 PM
The M-16 has a safety and yet I never had a problem getting that safety off when I needed to pull the trigger. Just takes practice.
Originally Posted by msgt/ret
June 19th, 2013 05:04 PM
I absolutely LOVE my grip safeties, it's one of the reasons I chose the XD platform (XD-M and XD-S).
It's my opinion that the 'safety between your ears' is about the least reliable one, it's nice to have a back up just don't rely on any safety, that includes your brain with years of trained experience... nobody is immune from a temporary lapse in brain activity.
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