It is all Glocks Fault

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    It is all Glocks Fault

    I had the misfortune (sarcasm) of shooting a nice collection of glocks in different calibers, and quite a lot of rounds through each at that. One thing I learned is that Glock will be my first gun, that much its clear to me now. Sort of spoke to me

    The compacts feel a lot better in my hand than the subcompacts and I was able to conceal them somewhat while trying on holsters. I'm sure I will figure out what works best for me in terms of a holster and wardrobe to aid in concealing.

    My only decision now is caliber. This is not a which caliber is best, please do not let that start... In essence I would like to carry the biggest round I can shoot accurately with minimal recoil and good follow up shots. The glock 19 did not have much recoil and I can proably shoot it all day. The 23 felt extremely snappy, though the bigger round is reassuring. The 30, to me, seemed like it had a lot more recoil than the 19 and just a bit less than the 23. I try not to be biased but I sort of like the 45, 9, 40 in that order. I did not get a chance to shoot the Glock 36.

    I know of the benefits of the Glock 23 with the conversion barrel to the 357/9. However that is not something I can honestly see myself doing any time soon. I guess if I learned to manage recoil better and improved my grip the 23 would be more forgiving, but I am, at least at the moment, debating between the 19 and the 30. And the 36 I have not tried. One thing that really confuses me are the different Glock 30 specs (30, S, SF) in comparison to the 36. The best deal for me would be the best compromise between caliber size and felt recoil (though this is highly subjective--different for everyone), and of course, ease of concealment is a HUGE plus since I plan to carry at all time. I would trust either to defend me at home should the need arise so I'd like to focus on their viability as a concealed carry gun.

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    Awesome you can't go wrong with whatever you go with, my brother have the 23 and being having it for years, I've being debating on the 30 or the 36. I have all .45 so I might want to stay with the .45 but the 9mm might take it first. Let us know what you went with?
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    If I recall correctly, the 30S has a slightly thinner slide intended to make it easier to conceal, while the SF (short frame) has a different shape to the backstrap, where the gun meets the web of your hand, to make it easier to grip and reach the trigger. The differences between them are subtle. The 36 is much different, in that it's a single-stack magazine (just one column of cartridges), so it's substantially thinner, but the mag holds only six rounds instead of ten.

    As for caliber, the practical differences are not as great as some make them out to be. All three (9mm, .40, .45) are proven to be effective with good ammunition, and they all have some advantages and disadvantages compared to each other. Between the 19 in 9mm and the 30 in .45, the 19 gives you five more rounds and faster follow-up shots, while the 30 is probably somewhat more accurate and somewhat more reliable in stopping power (simply because if the round fails to expand, which can always happen, an unexpanded .45 is much more effective than an unexpanded 9mm).

    I don't think you can go wrong with either one.
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    Yesterday I went to the range with my old ruger .22. I mean it is very old. beautiful stainless with a 6 inch barrel. I normally shoot my glock 23 and the recoil is snappy but I'm used to it (put about 1,000 rounds out of it in the last 12 months). Just for fun I shot my wife's glock 19 and boy, I was amazed that I could get back on target almost instantly for second shot. Then I pulled out old Betsy (the ruger) and it felt like I was shooting a laser, no felt recoil at all. As much as I love my old 23 (it is pre generations) I have to admit it was just flat out fun to shoot the other models. Got me thinking about a 19 or 26 for me - nah, I like the 23, but it had me thinking.
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    Not a fan of Glocks, but if you're hellbent on getting one and you're torn between the 19 and 30; get the 19. Capacity is king, and high-end ammo designed to defeat barriers (Hornady Critical Duty, for example) is going to expand whether you're punching through glass, wood, or a car door. Once you acknowledge the hard facts and understand that all three (9/40/45) take an average of two shots to stop your target, you start worrying less about mythical "stopping power" and more about shot placement, ammo capacity, and how fast you can accurately put those rounds on target.
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    Nothing left to do but buy one and get to shooting, my friend!

    I think you might enjoy the G19 the most (9mm is cheaper ammo than 45ACP, 40 is too snappy for a beginner, and the G19 might be the simplest, toughest, and "funnest" handgun around!)
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    It looks like you're leaning towards the 30 and I think it's a fine choice. It's a slightly thicker gun so it may be a touch harder to conceal than the 19. The 19, while in the humble 9mm, is the best concealed carry handgun in my collection (only the 26 rivals it due to that being essentially the same gun but can be carried in minimal clothing situations). And I personally prefer shooting 9mm compared to other calibers. It's just all around more consistent, controllable and plentiful.

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    I'd personally recommend the G26 or 19. As said, ammo is fairly inexpensive and the round is easy to control.

    That said, I like my .45 GAP Glocks, and own the G39, 38 and 37. Exact same frames as the 9mm and .40 Glocks, but ballistically equivalent to the .45 ACP (my old favorite).

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelyfun101 View Post
    Nothing left to do but buy one and get to shooting, my friend!

    I think you might enjoy the G19 the most (9mm is cheaper ammo than 45ACP, 40 is too snappy for a beginner, and the G19 might be the simplest, toughest, and "funnest" handgun around!)
    I agree....it is hard to beat the G19 in terms of shooting ease, accuracy, concealment, and it is simply just plain fun to shoot. My close second would be the G30.
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    Well, your just like me - like the compacts, not the sub-compacts. If it was me - I'd just get the 19 and be totally happy (this coming from someone who carry's and enjoys the .40 23) - cheaper to shoot, faster follow up shots, better capacity. But (like me), if you do prefer the .40 I would get a gen 4 23, I have heard the recoil in the gen 4 is much more tamed (I hear its the new recoil set up).
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    Start with a 19 and then add a 26. I would look for FDE or OD colors. You will be very happy.

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    I have a 19 and 36. Both are great! You will not go wrong with either, IMO. I do find the 36 a little easier to conceal.
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    If it's a tossup between the 30 and the 19, I would go with the 19 if you like them more or less equally, since the ammo is cheaper.
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    To the OP, I think you already answered yourself.

    You said you want the biggest caliber that you can control. You said you shot 9, 40, and 45 through Glock's with 45 falling in the middle as far as recoil goes. There you go. I'm a fan of 40, but it seems to me that you know you want 45. I'd say get the 30S. Good capacity in a smaller package.

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    DO NOT BUY A GLOCK UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    If you do...bad things will start to happen to you that you don't want to happen....

    First your blood will turn into Austrian polymer gray, you will become G.D. (Glock Dependent)..you will have to go to G. A. meeting twice a month.."Hi everyone, my name is (fill in the blank) and I am a Glockahaulic. The force will overtake you in short order and resistance will be Few-Tile.

    Save yourself while you still can.....put the Glocks down and step away..before it's to late........
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