This is a discussion on Compact 9mm (10 rnds min., prefer more, not M&P, XDmc, glock, or SR9c) within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; So I want to have more rounds available than my PM9 offers. I don't want to move up to full/mid size like a regular M&P ...
So I want to have more rounds available than my PM9 offers. I don't want to move up to full/mid size like a regular M&P or XD-M. Prefer a bit more than 10+1 but that is my minimum. The main players are not working for me:
1) Glock is a bit chunky for my hand and there is the grip angle.
2) XDm compact is near as chunky as glock and I am afraid the higher slide will not be for me in a carry compact gun. I do have a full sized XDm already.
3) M&P compact, I know the Apex after markets can make the trigger less mushy but I don't want to mess with that.
4) Ruger SR9c won't work as I don't want to worry about a thumb safety getting flipped on.
Any other quality and reliable options out there? It seems like the major manufacturers are all about going slim/small (and thus reducing capacity) these days.
kel tec p11.
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http://www.berettausa.com/products/px4-storm-compact/ or http://www.berettausa.com/products/p...f-sub-compact/
BP Concealed Carry little low on capacity you were looking for but have seen positive reviews
^ P11 is going to be the smallest compact with 12 rounds, probably. PF 9, only 7, same as Beretta Nano (nice little 9). Smallest 9 I've seen is the Diamondback, once again 6+1. It's either capacity, or size, imo.
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2013 M&Ps don't have a mushy trigger either. Pretty much weightless takeup, hard clean break with a ridiculously short (and loud) reset.
If you put some time in with either the G 19, or M&P 9C, you will almost certainly get past the issues you have with them.
I wouldnt recommend an inferior weapon to you to avoid a 'clunky feel", or whatever perceived triggers issues the M&P 9c is supposed to have. I own both models.
I went thru fighting pistol (1,000 rounds in two days), with the M&P 9c. Let me tell you, you WILL learn your trigger well after that much training and shooting. I have zero issues with the stock trigger.
As re the Glock; Its built that way for a reason. I think you are apt to spend a lot of money, and go thru lots of weapons instead of going with the best picks first. Dont get me wrong, most of us have. Hence my advice.
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Sccy cpx2 although its a little chunky too but a great shooter its about the same size as the glock 26
You'll get a Glock or an M&P eventually. We all did.
Lots of us (like me) got both.
I hated Glocks. 2x4 in the hand. Now I carry a 19 a lot.
M&Ps felt better, but the phony trigger sucked. Not for me.
Now I have an M&P 9, an M&P 9C, and an M&P 357.
Other than sights, they are all stock. Keep your Ghost disconnect and Apex stuff.
And rest assured, you will learn to appreciate them.
If it must be a little gun, I guess the P11 with 10+1 would meet that criteria. That said, please don't dismiss guns like the G19...there's a reason they're held in such high regard. And with a compact that size, there's tons of holsters that allow any kind of carry you would like. If it's weight you're concerned with, it's gonna be hard to load 10 or more 115 grain cartridges and maintain lightweight. Thoroughly think it through. Really small guns have their role, but aI wouldn't want to rely solely on them.
The new M&P triggers are supposed to have eliminated the previous shortcomings. I haven't fired one of the new ones yet, but they have gotten favorable reviews here.
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