Lighten hammer pull weight on a revolver ?

Lighten hammer pull weight on a revolver ?

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    Lighten hammer pull weight on a revolver ?

    A friend gave his step dad a heritage arms 22 revolver for a defense gun his step dad is an amputee and has one arm. He is in poor health and cannot manipulate a semi due to lack of strength, hence the revolver.

    He has difficulty cocking the hammer with his thumb alone as well. He cannot pull a double action trigger not can he handle the recoil of anything bigger than a 22. Is there any way to safely make the hammer easier to cock for him ? Buying another gun is prob not an option.


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    A great many of the gunsmiths I have spoken with in the past have started trigger jobs by polishing the internals to reduce resistance during the trigger cycle. Of course they also do such things as lightening the springs to reduce tension, they just must make sure that they don't reduce it too much as to make it unreliable. These two aspects are what I hear most when it comes to revolver trigger jobs.
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    I only have experiance with S&W revolvers. My 642 of off to S&W for a trigger job now. My understanding is polishing the internals will make the action smoother but not lighten the pull. The best way to lighten the pull without effecting primer strikes is to install a reduced power REBOUND spring. There are two spings you have to pull the MAIN and REBOUND spring. The main spring controlls the hammer and primer strikes. The rebound spring controlls the force of the trigger rebound. Most of the pull weight is due to the rebound spring and most factory installed rebound springs can be lightened significantly. The only negative effect of a rebound spring that is too light would be misfires when rapid fireing due to the trigger not being fully rebound. In your friends fathers situation I doubt he will be rapid fireing due to strength issues. In short a competent smith should be able to get that revolver in a state that he can work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taurahe View Post
    A friend gave his step dad a heritage arms 22 revolver for a defense gun his step dad is an amputee and has one arm. He is in poor health and cannot manipulate a semi due to lack of strength, hence the revolver.

    He has difficulty cocking the hammer with his thumb alone as well. He cannot pull a double action trigger not can he handle the recoil of anything bigger than a 22. Is there any way to safely make the hammer easier to cock for him ? Buying another gun is prob not an option.


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    Not really aside from using a Smith to polish some internals but that can make the gun a legal problem if ever an incident should occur, altering guns can make suits easier and doesn't look good legally, gives a bad impression - though in this case maybe not. If it's a new gun, someone else pulling trigger dry a lot can make it feel easier because it's more worn in - though modern guns usually don't need that (use snap-caps for this if you do it) and a good Gunsmith lube might help with the gun dismantled. I don't know these guns or what the trigger-pull weight is. Look it up or ask company. Tell them the problem, they might offer some ideas. Most revolvers are around 10-12 lbs in DA. If this is a lot stronger a different revolver might be easier.

    What's the problem with an SA semi-auto, handling the safety? Then again a gun that's SA in disabled hands could be dangerous for him if he fails to get the safety on properly. In fact. skip that idea.

    Don't use lighter trigger springs or lighter any springs. May not give enough momentum to the hammer to fire it reliably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detective View Post
    Not really aside from using a Smith to polish some internals but that can make the gun a legal problem if ever an incident should occur, altering guns can make suits easier and doesn't look good legally, gives a bad impression - though in this case maybe not. If it's a new gun, someone else pulling trigger dry a lot can make it feel easier because it's more worn in - though modern guns usually don't need that (use snap-caps for this if you do it) and a good Gunsmith lube might help with the gun dismantled. I don't know these guns or what the trigger-pull weight is. Look it up or ask company. Tell them the problem, they might offer some ideas. Most revolvers are around 10-12 lbs in DA. If this is a lot stronger a different revolver might be easier.

    What's the problem with an SA semi-auto, handling the safety? Then again a gun that's SA in disabled hands could be dangerous for him if he fails to get the safety on properly. In fact. skip that idea.

    Don't use lighter trigger springs or lighter any springs. May not give enough momentum to the hammer to fire it reliably.
    He isn't able to manipulate or reload a semi as he only has one arm and very limited strength. I myself recommended a semi as well but it is not what he wants


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    So The Heritage Arms is one of their Single Action cowboy style revolvers?

    Yes, a gunsmith could make it easier to cock the hammer by lightening the mainspring and doing some internal polishing.

    It is also possible to add an attachment to the hammer spur to give him more leverage and more of a thumb cocking surface.

    A gunsmith (or pretty much anybody) could just adapt a preexisting one to the heritage Arms.
    Midway USA sells them they are NOT expensive.

    It is always a delicate balance between ease of cocking and hammer strike reliability.

    Also some .22 Rim-fire ammunition sports a harder/stiffer brass rim than others so it will be necessary to experiment with various ammo brands in order to guarantee reliability.

    It should be a doable project.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Taurahe View Post
    He isn't able to manipulate or reload a semi as he only has one arm and very limited strength. I myself recommended a semi as well but it is not what he wants


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    Well, may be dangerous for him to have an SA with problems perhaps manipulating safety - but that would be the best solution, 4 lb trigger and you're set.

    Yeah I was puzzled at first with the revolver choice. It's the nature of revolvers to have much more resistant trigger-pull because that's the safety, the trigger-pull, but you're right, if he won't or can't take a semi-auto then you can't do much. Secondary weapons systems is really what's left. What about a good old double-barreled shotgun in shortest possible length? Recoil? They've been doing the job for a loooong time and you don't have to be Annie Oakley to blow an intruder over to the neighbor you don't like. That's the problem, or the other problem, aiming a handgun well with a weak hand.

    If that's out I'd say get him a couple of those Kimber long-shot pepper sprays and hope Fate doesn't knock at his door....

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    Contact T & D Metal Works | , Talk to Dave or Tony. They are in Cloverdale just west of Indy. I have had them do 4-5 different guns for me. They are ARTISTS.

    p.s. they are on U.S. 40 about 20-25 minutes from 465.
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    Well, 22 revolvers will have much heavier springs in them than centerfire revolvers. I would swap that out for maybe a used 38 that you can then take to a smith to get a trigger job done.

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    Money is clearly the issue. Cocking the hammer is a matter of leverage. QkShooter is on the right track, but while a spur extension gives you more area, like a target hammer, it doesn't provide more length and leverage.

    You have to be careful adding weight to a hammer (even a spur extension). How about a short aluminum tube you could crimp onto the hammer spur, and then flatten out at the end to give him some more leverage without adding much weight? Get s small piece of tube just smaller in diameter than the hammer, flatten it out a little, slip it on and crimp it in place. It won't look pretty, but it may solve the problem.
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