SD40VE Apex Tactical spring kit and trigger

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    SD40VE Apex Tactical spring kit and trigger

    Has anyone ever put one of these apex trigger kits in any of your guns. I have an sd40ve that has a god awful trigger and I've heard the apex kit makes the sd's trigger reminiscent of an m&p. I'm talking about replacing the actual trigger and adding the spring kit. thoughts?
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    Should you ever have to use your sidearm for defensive purposes, and something goes south, the Prosecuting Attorney of your jurisdiction will want to know if the firearm was 'modified' in any way. "Modified Firearm" is very much a Legal Term and can have terrible consequences.
    The question will appear on your depo, guaranteed. That is a very bad thing and makes your firearm a liability & can put your freedom at risk. Seen it.

    It is better to get a firearm that is the way you want it 'from the factory'. Sights, grips & other non-mechanical parts are different.
    Mods are for firearms not 'intended' to ever be used for 'self defense'.
    Unmodified firearms 'may' keep you from being prosecuted, regardless if the mod is actually related to the incident.
    The courts will give you law. Common sense and Justice are different subjects. This is one big CYA subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patri0t View Post
    Should you ever have to use your sidearm for defensive purposes, and something goes south, the Prosecuting Attorney of your jurisdiction will want to know if the firearm was 'modified' in any way. "Modified Firearm" is very much a Legal Term and can have terrible consequences.
    The question will appear on your depo, guaranteed. That is a very bad thing and makes your firearm a liability & can put your freedom at risk. Seen it.

    It is better to get a firearm that is the way you want it 'from the factory'. Sights, grips & other non-mechanical parts are different.
    Mods are for firearms not 'intended' to ever be used for 'self defense'.
    Unmodified firearms 'may' keep you from being prosecuted, regardless if the mod is actually related to the incident.
    The courts will give you law. Common sense and Justice are different subjects. This is one big CYA subject.

    I second that, pari0t. Too much legal precedent...not about the truth. It's about what a legal whore can convince the jury that you've done wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patri0t View Post
    Should you ever have to use your sidearm for defensive purposes, and something goes south, the Prosecuting Attorney of your jurisdiction will want to know if the firearm was 'modified' in any way. "Modified Firearm" is very much a Legal Term and can have terrible consequences.
    The question will appear on your depo, guaranteed. That is a very bad thing and makes your firearm a liability & can put your freedom at risk. Seen it.

    It is better to get a firearm that is the way you want it 'from the factory'. Sights, grips & other non-mechanical parts are different.
    Mods are for firearms not 'intended' to ever be used for 'self defense'.
    Unmodified firearms 'may' keep you from being prosecuted, regardless if the mod is actually related to the incident.
    The courts will give you law. Common sense and Justice are different subjects. This is one big CYA subject.
    Please please please... show me one actual case where this was a primary issue... I will buy you a beer if you can.

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    Apex Tactical has You Tube videos on installation. I put sears and Rams in to of my MPs it was a breeze. Made a big difference on trigger pull (lightened) and cut the trigger rest in half. Really Like there stuff.

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    The SD40VE if you have it for a target range gun is just not the gun you want. If you want it for SD then its fine as it is. Just takes a bit of shooting it to get used to the trigger but its no worse than most DA revolver triggers and better than some out of the box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rugerista View Post
    Perfect! great link, thank you!
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    May lower the trigger weight but it is only a spring kit and will not fix the long travel and reset.

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    I gotta be honest all the BS I hear about "Modified" guns makes me wanta barf,Changing parts is one thing and The only thing that I can think of that would get you in Deep Doo Doo in court is if you lightened the trigger pull or filed on a sear that made the gun Unsafe.I have a friend with a competition 1911 that the trigger pull is about #2,there is no way I would carry a gun with a trigger that light since you may inadvertently in a stress situation apply enough pressure to fire the gun which would be really bad if the suspect is raising his arms when you bust a cap in his ass,or if you filed on a sear or engaged in home gunsmithing and the gun AD'd and hit somebody I carry a 1911 with a 4# trigger and it is safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patri0t View Post
    Should you ever have to use your sidearm for defensive purposes, and something goes south, the Prosecuting Attorney of your jurisdiction will want to know if the firearm was 'modified' in any way. "Modified Firearm" is very much a Legal Term and can have terrible consequences.
    The question will appear on your depo, guaranteed. That is a very bad thing and makes your firearm a liability & can put your freedom at risk. Seen it.

    It is better to get a firearm that is the way you want it 'from the factory'. Sights, grips & other non-mechanical parts are different.
    Mods are for firearms not 'intended' to ever be used for 'self defense'.
    Unmodified firearms 'may' keep you from being prosecuted, regardless if the mod is actually related to the incident.
    The courts will give you law. Common sense and Justice are different subjects. This is one big CYA subject.
    Show case law to support your statement or stop being a fearmonger.
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    Ignore the typical bs fear mongering that's typical on the internet about changing parts in a carry gun. I have put both the spring kit and AET trigger from Apex in my SD9 and the combo turns a mediocre gun into a real shooter.

    Yes, it does lighten the trigger pull from the 8-9 lb range to around 5.5-6 lbs, which is a perfectly acceptable, widely used and common trigger pull weight. It also makes the pull nice and smooth. The reset is still the same length which does not affect me, I shoot to trigger recovery not trigger reset. The AET trigger does away with the factory hinged trigger and eliminates the stacking feel that you get from the hinged trigger.

    I have over 2000 rounds through my Apex'd out SD9, and many thousand dry fires. I'm going to purchase another, and as soon as I run a few hundred rounds through it to ensure proper function from the factory, it will be getting the Apex treatment. $60 in parts and about 20 minutes of your time is quite the bargain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cthruit View Post
    I second that, pari0t. Too much legal precedent...not about the truth. It's about what a legal whore can convince the jury that you've done wrong.
    Do you have any links to support this claim?
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    Quote Originally Posted by patri0t View Post
    Should you ever have to use your sidearm for defensive purposes, and something goes south, the Prosecuting Attorney of your jurisdiction will want to know if the firearm was 'modified' in any way. "Modified Firearm" is very much a Legal Term and can have terrible consequences.
    The question will appear on your depo, guaranteed. That is a very bad thing and makes your firearm a liability & can put your freedom at risk. Seen it.

    It is better to get a firearm that is the way you want it 'from the factory'. Sights, grips & other non-mechanical parts are different.
    Mods are for firearms not 'intended' to ever be used for 'self defense'.
    Unmodified firearms 'may' keep you from being prosecuted, regardless if the mod is actually related to the incident.
    The courts will give you law. Common sense and Justice are different subjects. This is one big CYA subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Once View Post
    This is why all my guns are bone stock and will stay that way

    That is why you will never own a gun that performs at maximum potential....... fear mongering has got you in its grasp.
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