Advice Needed-First Handgun
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November 11th, 2013 06:27 PM
Advice Needed-First Handgun
Ok, I am totally new here on Defensive Carry, not sure if I am even posting this in the right place. I am sure this has been asked a million times before so bear with me. Relatively new to handguns, I am seeking to get my carry permit and also looking for home defense weapon. So many choices of different calibers, brands of guns, full size,compact,etc.etc. I have it narrowed down to Ruger SR9 or a S&W M&P 9mm. I think the .40 may be too much for me to handle, or am I just being a wimp. Would like some advice as to if I am in the right ballpark, my concerns are cost of the gun, (can't afford a $1000 gun), cost of ammo since i want to practice and become proficient with gun before my carry permit. Of course reliability is a main factor. Any advice or suggestions from members would be greatly appreciated.
November 11th, 2013 06:27 PM
November 11th, 2013 06:31 PM
The best advice that I have is to handle as many guns as possible, and if possible, fire them. Everyone's hands are different, and guns fit everyone differently. Go to a store and see if any of them just seem to feel right in your hard.
9mm is certainly a viable caliber, and there are many guns in the $400-500 dollar range by major manufacturers who are well made, quality guns.
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November 11th, 2013 06:32 PM
Welcome to the Forum!
Both of those listed are fine guns, great for HD but a little big for my taste to carry concealed. It can be done, no doubt so if you are looking to have one gun serve two purposes then you are on the right track.
Remember a quality holster and gun belt, get some training and you will be good to go....
November 11th, 2013 06:38 PM
I would vote for the Ruger out of those two but I'm biased, the SR9 was my first gun (I even bought the SR9c for a CCW). It is reliable, fun to shoot and has a manual safety (which I think is good for everyone but especially beginners). S&W is probably good too but I didn't like the long trigger pull on the MP9c that I tested.
I would also suggest the SR9c because you can put the longer magazine in it and it pretty much becomes an SR9 so you get both guns with the SR9c.
November 11th, 2013 06:45 PM
The M&P is the better gun, it also will have much better market longevity and aftermarket support.
At this point in your "gun career" don't fall victim to caliber debates. 9mm is a wise choice.
November 11th, 2013 06:53 PM
Definitely go to a range that rents guns an try a bunch out. You might want to consider a CZ 75 P01 or a duty both are fantastic weapons great shooters an around 500.00. I have been shooting for many years an they would be hard to beat for reliability, an ease of carry.
November 11th, 2013 06:59 PM
Either is a good choice. Personally I love my SR9. If you want to carry as well the SR9c is a solid choice. I agree that trying some out at a range is a great way to make a choice.
November 11th, 2013 07:00 PM
I went through this with my wife a few months ago. She shot 10-12 380's, 9mm's, and .40's. She liked and shot the sr40c better than anything else. It fit her hand, recoil was good, and it was comfortable to her. I didn't tell her what caliber they were beforehand.
My advice as others will say is shoot as many as you can before making a decision. The caliber or gun that fits YOU best is the right choice. They all go bang when fired....you"ll know when you shoot THE gun/caliber for you.
November 11th, 2013 07:01 PM
Asking what's the best SD gun/caliber is akin to asking what's the best pickup truck--everyone has their own opinion; everyone else is wrong.
For the common civilian SD use, any caliber from .380 to .45 ACP is effective "if" you do your part in putting bullets where they count. Modern SD rounds are much more effective that what was available 10-15 years ago. Personally, I would not feel under gunned with a 5-shot .38 Special loaded with hard-cast SWCs. I carry a 9mm or .45 ACP semi but wouldn't feel nervous with a lower capacity revolver.
I offer no preference between the Ruger and M&P, having no experience with either other than holding the M&P at a LGS. I will confess it points more naturally than my Glock, but that doesn't translate into shooting better. Research them, handle both, shoot both if possible. One will speak to you and you'll know.
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November 11th, 2013 07:03 PM
You have to find a gun that fits your hand and that you can shoot and feel comfortable shooting.
Get to the ranges that rent, and shoot em all.
No one can tell you what is the best. If I just bought gun X, I am going to tell you that is the best gun ever.
Once you shoot a few, ask specific questions about your experiences and you may be able to settle on a few...
For what it is worth, you will buy more than 1.
November 11th, 2013 07:05 PM
I am not an expert but a police trade in Glock 19 or 23 would be a good first HD or carry gun. I have a 26 but it does have a short grip.
November 11th, 2013 07:10 PM
Ditto the advice on here. Shoot as many guns as you can get your hands on via the beg, borrow, don't steal, but rent method. It's all about reliability and fit/feel for you both in the hand and with the trigger...then look at price point. When all of your research is done pick the one for you. That being said...I looked at both the guns you are choosing between (and a few others Glock, Springfield Armory, etc) and went with the M&P Full Size 9. Great gun...can't go wrong. Good luck...and may the best gun for you be clear.
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November 11th, 2013 07:12 PM
As was stated above, you are going to have to make some friends with some people who own firearms to let you do some trying of different types and calibers. Welcome to the Forum.
Here is a little motivation for you!
November 11th, 2013 07:17 PM
My first handgun was a gov issued 1911 45ACPback in 1967. I would only recommend a 1911 if you are a true gun crank and are willing to learn to work with it. Since my wife just went thru the process you are going thru I'll relate her experiences. She has shot 357mag revolver, 10mm 1911, Glock 20 10mm, and gov size 1911 45acp. She could not deal with power 10mm so no go. She didn't like revolvers in any shape or form. She liked my 1911 45acp but said it was just to heavy for her to carry. She liked my CZ 52 30 Mauser but not the mag release. I had her look at numerous manufacturers web sights. She chose a Beretta PX-4 Storm in 9mm,full size,continual DA. She said it "looked" right.Mmmm ooooook. She shot about 200 rounds for familiarization and took her CCP class. She consistently had the smallest grops of anyone in the class. So the only advice I can truly offer you is:
1. Your manhood isn't judged by how big a caliber you own
2. As others have stated; only you can decide what you are comfortable with
3. Only take advice as just that....advice
4. Full size pistols are usually easier to shoot
5. You CAN conceal a full size gun if you really want to
I hate mouse guns so take that into consideration. There is a tremendous wealth of information on this sight. Read and absorb all you can BEFORE rushing out and spending $$$$
November 11th, 2013 07:18 PM
Welcome from Wisconsin. If I had to choose between the two, and you said you were new to handguns, I'd go with a good revolver in 357 mag with a 4" barrel. You've already made up your mind, so I'll wish you good luck in your search.
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