Need information on 45's
My son is leaning towards a .45, but he does not want to carry hammer back with one chanbered like I do on my Kimber.
Yes, I know all the arguments, and I have tried to explain them all, so I'd rather not waste a lot of space here going through all that again.
What I'm needing is information: what brands and models of 45's in either 3 or 4 inch versions are there on the market that feature double action and also have an external safety ?
Since my Kimber was my first 45 since switching my carry weapon from a Glock, I am not familiar with all the makes and models on the market. With the very knowledgeable folks here, I thought I might get some information and/or recommendations. Would like to find one for a Christmas present if I still have time.
Edit: NM read the question.
Ruger P90 comes to mind... certain variations of the HK USPc would work well too. Smith and Wesson autos would also fit the bill.
Those are all 4" barrels though, not sure about a 3" that's not a 1911 format being out there. Taurus PT145 maybe?
Para Ordnance has several double-action 1911's with a manual safety. Taurus has several .45 ACP models with manual safeties as well, as does Ruger, HK (USP), and EAA (Witness).
I'm sure I missed one or two other manufacturers.
The Springfield XD 45 acp comes to mind as a top pick:
I thought that too but I think he wants an external safety. Maybe the grip safety counts in his book but maybe not.
Yeah, it's worth a shot to find out. :)
+1 on the HK USP. Too bad ya gotta drop so much $$ on one though. If you can find a Beretta Cougar (or Stoeger [sp??] now) in .45 I've heard they're a nice little gun. IIRC, they can be found DA/SA or DAO and with an external safety. Beretta stopped making them, but you can find some around online. I've still got a Cougar on my wish list for someday.
+1 on the taurus and xd's. Glock has some 45's also but I have never shot them
+1 on the HK USP and USP Compact. I've got one and love it. He can even switch from carrying DA/SA decocked to cocked and locked if he ever gets over his hammerphobia.
While I don't actually have any experience with them like I do the USP, another option would be the Para-Ordinance LDA pistols. They look just like standard 1911s, but they're DA/SA with the safety acting as a decocker.
....forgot about the Beretta Cougar 8045F....great gun. I have the DAO version (8045D).
Mine is a Para Carry. 3" stainless 1911 with the LDA trigger.
It is not sa/da. It is da only with a spurless hammer and an extended thumb safety, not a decocker.
It is carried "hammer down" as it cannot be manually cocked.
The trigger pull is rather long but very light and the pistol is surprisingly accurate for a 3" .45.
I think it's what you're looking for.
I too would vote for the Para LDA's, they are very easy to shoot, accurate and reliable. If they are too pricey you might want to look at "CZ's" as well, they make fine weapons for a reasonable price.
I own the Taurus PT145PRO and the XD45. Both are fine weapons. The Ruger P90 is also known to be reliable, albeit large and heavy.
H&K, Sig, CZ,S&W,Beretta, and most 1911's are built with more than adequate quality for a defensive handgun
There are many fine choices out there, go find a range that will let you rent as many as possible. Buy what fits you.
just my .02
Iv got a coupla questions?
Is it his first carry weapon?Well on queston lol
If it is then im not sure glock would be a good choice .Not to bash glock but the triger can be tricky holstering the weapon.
How much do you want to spend on the weapon he wants to carry ?
If you want to stay in a lower range like the guys said xd ,smith n wesson da 1911 are not to expenxive ect...