What do you know...buy a Model 10...get a M&P Hand Ejector instead...

What do you know...buy a Model 10...get a M&P Hand Ejector instead...

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    What do you know...buy a Model 10...get a M&P Hand Ejector instead...

    Drove into the Twin Cities today to go shooting with a buddy; in the shop attached to the range was a S&W Model 10--so it said on the tag.

    Nice older model, half-moon front sight, really nice shape. I was told that it was refinished by S&W...but of course, they didn't have any documentation to that effect.

    I've been looking for a nice K-frame .38 for a bit, the price was a bit high, but it came with free range rental for two, as well as a free gun rental, and I wanted to give a Sig P227 a go...so, factoring that in, it wasn't too bad.

    It's a SHOOTER. My first 12 rounds made a golf-ball sized hole. I was quite pleased with it.

    Now, though...it seems it's not a Model 10.

    It seems to be a five-screw model M&P from the early 1920's...still doing some research on it. I believe it did make a trip back to S&W at one point, though, as the serial number has a star after it--and research says that S&W would stamp guns that had been repaired in such a manner prior to the 1960's or so.

    And here's a (admittedly lousy) pic to keep all of you satisfied, and to say "Uh-HUH! Did SO!"

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    Excellent find and a great gun, enjoy.
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    Take the grip panels off, and you should be looking for a R or maybe numbers and a R on it. I believe it's S&Ws policy to not reblue older guns like yours. I bet it went to Doug Turnbull to be refinished. They do as good a job as the Factory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CLASS3NH View Post
    Take the grip panels off, and you should be looking for a R or maybe numbers and a R on it. I believe it's S&Ws policy to not reblue older guns like yours. I bet it went to Doug Turnbull to be refinished. They do as good a job as the Factory.
    It did go to S&W, as the serial number has a star--it was worked on in September of 1952.

    No "RB" stamp on it, though. It may or may not have been refinished by S&W.

    I'm rather enjoying this--I bought it as a shooter, and it's turning out to be a bit of history--kinda.

    Oh--and, according to more research (that is, asking on the S&W forum)...it's a "M&P Model of 1905 4th Change", likely from 1920 or 1921, with early post-war stocks.
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    Smith doesn't make them like that anymore, old time craftsmanship; you did very well.

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    Beautiful old Smith, Cuda, congratulations!

    If the work was done in 1952, I'd bet S&W did do the refinish.
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    Oh boy. What a nice looking pistol. I would put on Tyler T Grips between the frame and the walnut stocks. Ummm ... what a shooter. I would not feel under gunned carrying that sweet piece.

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    I agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OD* View Post
    Beautiful old Smith, Cuda, congratulations!

    If the work was done in 1952, I'd bet S&W did do the refinish.
    Thanks...

    According to what I've been told, if S&W did the refinish, it would have a RB stamp near the rework date...and I can't see one.

    Either way, I'm pretty happy with it, considering I was really looking for one of the beat-up model 10's that have come on the market again, but they didn't have one...and this one wasn't all that more expensive. I figured "what the heck..."

    I have a suspicion that I'll still get a beat up Model 10...I was planning on having my wife try it out, and if she didn't like it, it was going to be my "shop pistol"--that is, be wrapped in an oily rag out in the shop...
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    Back in the 70s, I was told by a very knowledgeable old gentleman, "You can't go wrong with a Model 10. They are rock solid, dependable as gravity and the action is olive oil smooth."

    He was right,

    Congratulations on a great find!!!
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    Wow, what a great find and a great gun.

    It sounds like you may have done this already but if not it's certainly worth the $50.00 to get a letter from Smith on the date of manufacture, original config, etc. I have one just like it and I absolutely love the gun. Enjoy shooting it, it is a sweet little shooter. Congratulations.
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    I might add that one of the best things about this forum is what you can learn .... so many on this board have a lot of knowledge and willingly share it. I've learned in this thread alone of the star after the serial number and the RB regarding blueing.
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    Great find. You can get a hold of S&W and get a history on the gun based on the SN.

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    Good find. Cuda. Got one just like that, and it's a real shooter.
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    I think I know the store you're talking about. Nice place, but they do tend to be confusing with their id's - I seem to recall they had a "Charter Arms Detective Special" on the shelf not long ago, when "Undercover" was clearly marked on the barrel...

    Anyway, congrats! Love to have one myself.
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