RUGER LCP Owners, Help Me Out.

RUGER LCP Owners, Help Me Out.

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    RUGER LCP Owners, Help Me Out.

    Hello all, my lady bought a Raspberry LCP and she loves it, I shot it and I love it. I will even say I have carried it time and time again. I decided to trade in my PF9 for an LCP + Crimson, I might sell the laser since I am not a fan of the feel or practicality of these instruments.

    My questions and issues are as follows:

    1) Is there a 1st and 2nd Generation LCP and are there physical differences?
    -- It appears the LCP I bought (which was stated to be 2 years old and shows the wear) has much lower profile sights with a "U" in the rear compared to my ladies new Raspberry version.

    2) Is there a difference in trigger; travel, pull, and hammer position between the 2 generations (if there are 2 types), because my older LCP has a travel that matches the PF9 I got rid of, and seems to be 2x longer than the new R-LCP. Also, the cocked and at rest position of the hammer are in a different orientation (as seen in photo), my older LCP hammer appears to rest higher and further back from the rear and not flush. The new R-LCP has a hammer that sits flush and lines up with the slides body.

    3) If there is a defect with my LCP, is it warrantied and how long does the turn around take?

    4) I didn't buy the LCP to win a beauty contest, I bought it because the R-LCP is one of the easiest shooting, most comforatable, accurate, and easy to carry pockets I have held. Anyway, this gun has a bit of wear on it from the age. Would you suggest a re-bluing agent (if that exists) or sanding/polishing the slide for a duo-tone? I am fond of both ways, which is easier and less costly?

    5) My older LCP (after firing 50rds the day I got it) I had a couple failures. Upon inspection of the firearm when the pull didn't go bang, I noticed each time that the slide didn't completely lock forward and was hung back about a 1/4" and preventing it to fire. Could a certain part need cleaning, or perhaps a new spring, or does stretching the spring out extend the life and remove this issue?

    6) Last but not least! What is your opinion of the best Defensive Ammo in this firearm? After much research I would like to stack Golden Saber's with FMJ's to get both world of penetration and expansion. Do you have a better choice(s)?

    Thanks for reading, and I look forward to your answers!

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    I found a few threads online stating that Ruger did indeed enhance the LCP with taller sights and a better trigger, not sure what year but that would make it Version 2.0 in my book. Can I send this into Ruger and have them slap the Version 2.0 trigger group in, or should I just sell it and buy a new LCP? I HATE the trigger on my Version 1.0, more so than the one on the PF9.
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    RUGER LCP Owners, Help Me Out.

    Yes the sights are taller changed this year. The trigger travel is less as well.


    The best breakdown of SD ammo out of short barreled pistols in .380


    http://shootingthebull.net/blog/fina...cp-ammo-quest/

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    By some tests that I've seen the 102 gr. Remington doesn't expand at all.

    No better than FMJ in the eyes of many.

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    Ruger Pistol Forums - Elsie Pea Forum. Check out this forum for good info on the LCP. It took me a while to figure out that Elsie Pea was LCP. Dah but true.
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    yup you nailed all of the changed in the newer generation. ruger never really admitted that they changed it but the definitely did, and for the better. the link that happypuppy posted is a great comparison of standard pressure hollow points from a micro 380 like you have. you can see how most of the big names ranked and all. make your decision from there. also here is a discussion on this forum about using 380 fmj as self defense round:
    (Is .380 powerful enough for defensive carry?

    in the end you are the one who will make the ultimate decision. lots of info out there, good luck.
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    11-27-2013, 11:33 PM
    Hey all,
    Having both and doing several tests pertaining to parts differences, I noticed on the gen 2 that the hammer does a good amount of right cant and stresses the hammer to tilt and strike the slide/FP at an angle when pulling the trigger. I believe this is due to the newer design to shorten the trigger pull with the redesigned trigger bar and other internal parts to shorten the pull. It might be putting some sort of stress with the new design. After my findings, I went to a LGS and verified this with a NIB LCP. The owner was surprised at this and said it was not good. His new one had no cant, and mine has approx 300 rounds thru it. His loaner pistol had alot of cant in it (way more than mine) with who know how many rounds thru it. I disassembled my gen 2 and there was a definite 'key holeing' of the frame where the hammer pin goes thru. The hammer & pin are steel, but the frame is a softer aluminum.
    Here is a test for you gen 2 owners to verify: field strip it, pull the hammer down to the second click to index the sear in the hammer/sear indexing pin, hold the frame to a light (like you are shooting the pistol) and make sure you see an equal amount of light on both sides of the hammer-to-frame, start pulling the trigger (but don't over pull to release the hammer) and you will see the hammer cant to the right of the frame slot. Wondering why this is happening?

    Interesting post from an gen 2 LCP owner. Not me I have a gen 1.
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    I have owned a gen 1 lcp and currently own a gen 2. IMO the sights and trigger on the gen 2 is leaps and bounds above the gen 1. So much so that if it were me, I would sell then gen 1 and buy a gen 2.
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    OP here is my lpc is this helps mine is a post recall gun I think gen 1 still though but it no longer has the factory sights or trigger on it . 20131111_151921.jpg.

    These guns were recalled so I would check to see if yours was affected... I would have a gunsmith check it out and if you want put in new springs and a new trigger .

    I got mine from this guy Galloway Precision your polymer pistol specialist the trigger makes a world of difference imop.

    Also check these guys out Sight Upgrade they will fluff and buff and put true night sigts on your lcp or p3at ..

    My gun is running the galloway trigger , houge grips, night sights and a pocket clip to me it feels and sights like a near true non last ditch gun.

    As for ammo I like hornday CD rounds . Some people say you should only use FMJ in 380 for penetration but I think CD with a polmore tip is a good round ..

    And yes I hear that gen 2 guns

    As for warrenty I am not sure how long it is I would have to look though my stuff but it would not hurt to call most of the big companies are good about helping .. That and if all eles fails the factory for lcps is located just a few hours from me

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    Quote Originally Posted by WrongRecroom View Post
    OP here is my lpc is this helps mine is a post recall gun I think gen 1 still though but it no longer has the factory sights or trigger on it . 20131111_151921.jpg.

    These guns were recalled so I would check to see if yours was affected... I would have a gunsmith check it out and if you want put in new springs and a new trigger .

    I got mine from this guy Galloway Precision your polymer pistol specialist the trigger makes a world of difference imop.

    Also check these guys out Sight Upgrade they will fluff and buff and put true night sigts on your lcp or p3at ..

    My gun is running the galloway trigger , houge grips, night sights and a pocket clip to me it feels and sights like a near true non last ditch gun.

    As for ammo I like hornday CD rounds . Some people say you should only use FMJ in 380 for penetration but I think CD with a polmore tip is a good round ..

    And yes I hear that gen 2 guns

    As for warrenty I am not sure how long it is I would have to look though my stuff but it would not hurt to call most of the big companies are good about helping .. That and if all eles fails the factory for lcps is located just a few hours from me
    If you don't mind me asking... How much did that sight job run you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rollo View Post
    If you don't mind me asking... How much did that sight job run you?
    It was less then 150 with shipping etc as I remember and imop it was very much worth it . I have try to take photos down sights to show off the line up but I can not seem too but I will say that it feels like real gun now not some belly gun and lines up great , plus the finnesh they used and the barrel ( kind of this sleek hard steel look) looks very nice imop.

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    I tried to get my wife an LCP, but she couldn't pull the trigger, guy at the shop measured it at 10.2 lbs.
    Gave her my broke in Kel Tec and it lasted 7 years, but her arthritis got too bad to rack the slide.

    A friend of mine at a local range was telling me one of his rental Taurus 738 just passed 10,000 rounds without any repairs.
    Now its at 13000 and another one is approaching 9000 rounds with zero repairs.
    The Sig 238 & Kel Tec P3AT came in second at near 3200 rounds before completely failing and there was no real 3rd place worth mentioning (didn't make 1k rounds).

    He does a lot of Ballistic testing and found that only the +P .380s were good performers and jacketed bullets were the best bet.

    I got my wife the Taurus 738 & 2 mags as it was the only one she could pull the trigger on & rack the slide due to the deep serrations.
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    Is the LCP Matte or Gloss black? I'd like to touch up some of the holster wear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopGunRMNP View Post
    Is the LCP Matte or Gloss black? I'd like to touch up some of the holster wear.
    One side of the slide on my LCP is factory "sparkly black jewel". The other side is factory "splotchy mottled dull I can't believe this past QC/QA black."
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    Gen 2 has better sights and trigger. The gen 2 models have no dash in the serial number. Love mine!

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