I need a little guidance or advice please.
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January 7th, 2014 04:32 PM
I need a little guidance or advice please.
I am thinking about either getting a S&W Bodyguard .380 or a Springfield XDs .45. I already have a G19 and G26 and the 26 is my main carry right now. I am really leaning towards the XDs as I have been wanting one due to them being so slim and would be easier to conceal under a t-shirt. I don't have a problem concealing my G26 or G19 with my Alien Gear hybrid holster.
The reason I am thinking about a Bodyguard is that it is really small and would be a great summer carry gun. I just can't really make up my mind. I will probably go for the XDs as they are on sale for $469.99 right now so it will be about $500 out the door. The Bodyguard is about $369.99 plus tax. Another thing I am not sure I will like is the trigger pull of the Bodyguard. If it is anything like an LC9, which I have had, I don't think I would like it but maybe with it only being a .380 it would be easier to stay on target.
So my question is, which one should I go with? I am having trouble deciding. I look the XDs and think that it won't be that much easier to conceal and then I look at the Bodyguard and think it would be great for the summer on those hot days. I've also thought about maybe a new Glock 42 when they come out or a Khar CW380 or CW9 maybe. I've also seen a Keltec 380 for $199.99 used but has a lot of wear on the slide. I've also thought about a Ruger LCR possibly. I just don't know if a revolver is for me though. So what do you guys and gals think?
January 7th, 2014 04:37 PM
Ultimately....the choice is yours, that much is for certain. I am really not a huge fan of the .380, as you can have a 9mm in a similar sized platform. I am a big fan of the .45acp though, having carried it as both a police officer and as a grunt in the U.S. Army. I have used the XD compact version in .45 and found it to be very pleasant to shoot and accurate. In fact, I have fired many other .45's that recoiled more severly than the XD did, and they were full sized versions from other manufacturers. You may also want to throw in the Glock 30 into the equation as well if you have access to one. The G30 is possibly the best pistol in its class in my own opinion, and many others opinions as well.
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January 7th, 2014 04:38 PM
I would almost say wait they are making a new non laser bodyguard and it looks nice New from S&W: M&P Version of the Bodyguard .380 | The Truth About Guns.. That said mine has a long heavier pull but it feels smooth with a noticeable break and reseast. But galloway percsion makes parts that smooth it out so no worries there . Also for the me the saftey and laser( too hard to hit) are not worth much . I persoanl leav the safety of most of the time the trigger as stock is so heavier that you have to be pulling it with effot to make it go bang. But fitted with houge grips the gun feels great and I like the the way it molds into my hand .
That said here is mine 20130923_140016.jpg
Why not get a 9mm XDS? No new ammo to buy and I like XD series. It is the one I am looking at
But seriously fired both guns if you can and take them apart if you can. I dont take my bodyguard down much as it is a real pain for breakdown with my big hands ( and I cant really take it down due to the barrel it is mounted with .. ) . They both fired and feel very differnty .
And again if you are used to the glock why not wait on the 42 ( I am thinking I may as I like how glocks takedown) and maybe get a LCP in the mean time . I like the LCP guns here is mine with night sigts and a new trigger 20131111_151921.jpg
Also any small pocket gun will kick hard . I tend to put houge or such grips and grip extension on all my carry guns makes it a lot nicer . The only ones I dont are the sig 238 and 938 they are heaiver enough to fire with no grips . Also they make low recoile ammo in 380 that may help
As for whell guns they are fun if you are looking look at the 642 smith non lock version and heaiver grips a nice gun but wheel guns are not for everyone.
Or if you want 45 why not a glock 45 36 or 30 or 30sf or 30s no new gun to learn and packes 45
January 7th, 2014 04:39 PM
My vote goes to the Springfield XD 45.
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January 7th, 2014 04:53 PM
Thank you all for your responses so far. I am leaning more towards the XDs. The reason I want it in .45 and not 9mm is because I would like to have the larger caliber considering they are the same size. I will lose a round or two but I don't mind that. Also, the 9mm XDs is $499 and the .45 is on sale for $469 and I will only have enough to get the .45 at that price. Plus I have seen most places charging $550 or more for either. I don't think it would be that hard to conceal in the summer as the grip is so slim. That is the problem with the G19. With the G26 it isn't too bad. One reason I didn't just go ahead and get the XDs as I just bought the G26 a week ago is that I like the idea of having 10 rounds and I also carry a spare G19 15 round magazine so I have 26 rounds total if needed. With the XD's I only get 7+1 for the 45 but I guess I can just get used to it. I also like that it comes with 2 magazines and a mag carrier and holster for the price as well as a nice case.
The only reason I am considering a smaller .380 is how they are so small and would be very easy to conceal and I probably wouldn't even notice I am carrying it.
Also, just some more info about me. I am about 6' tall and only weight about 140 lbs and I usually wear larger t-shirts.
January 7th, 2014 04:56 PM
don't have much of a stand in this one, but i think i am going to start beating a pointless drum, just because i have a love affair and want to see someone get one so i can grill them all about it. you should quadruple your budget and find an H&K P7 , like an M8, or M13, they even made them in .40 cal too.
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January 7th, 2014 04:59 PM
You already have a carry pistol you like correct? What will you use a snappy little .380 for? They really are not much fun for target shooting. If you don't own a .45, that would be next on my list. The XDs is OK, not great but OK. It WILL be fun to shoot too.
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January 7th, 2014 05:00 PM
My vote goes for the XDs.
January 7th, 2014 05:07 PM
If I had to choose, I'd go with the XDS.
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January 7th, 2014 05:16 PM
I have the XDs and I can recommend it. First, I'm a 45 guy. Having owned 380's in the past I can easily tell you that there is just no comparison between 380 and 45, but you know that so forgive me. I like the XDs because it's a durable little gun. Since I don't worry about holster wear or exposing it to wear while I'm working on the farm, it doesn't seem to collect wear. Sure, it's a bit of a handful to shoot but definitely within reason. And it's a pretty good shooter in terms of accuracy. It is not a plinker, you won't spend all of your money on 45 ammo just to keep pulling the trigger. You'll grow tired of shooting it before you go broke. It's very compact, very comfortable to carry. Yeah, I just like it for a plastic gun. I like it (and trust it) enough that it's one of my 3 primaries. And it's the only tupperware in my rotation.
As wrongrec pointed out; If they're coming out w/a bodyguard without that cheezy POS laser, I'd wait for that if you're inclined in that direction. I've looked at those and I can NOT understand why they would integrate something like that into the basic platform of the weapon. It doesn't look like it'll function for 3-5 years. A hand gun should be prepared to still be working, in it's entirety, one hundred years from the time you buy it new. Integrating that laser is marketing schlock and someone should be taken behind the wood shed for that one.
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January 7th, 2014 05:46 PM
If you are considering the XDS, also look at the Glock 36.
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January 7th, 2014 05:56 PM
I would have to go for the XDS as well. I would rather have the power in a small package. Unless you really need the compactness of the bodyguard, the XDs is a great little gun. Having shot the bodyguard and the XDs, both have there merits. If you really wcant decide, I would find a range that has one or both as rentals and shoot them. There is no better way to tell than to put some rounds downrange. And if you know you want one or the other, you might be able to get them to waive rental fees if you buy from them.
My carry piece is a Shield 9mm.... if they ever make on in 45, I will be all over it.
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January 7th, 2014 06:01 PM
I really like the bodyguard, however, my main issues are the trigger pull and the safety. The trigger pull is definitely heavy enough that you could leave the safety off and not worry, especially since it'd be in a holster. As far as the safety goes, I don't mind that it has one, I just hate that it's flush with the body and VERY stiff. It's a bit of a struggle to disengage it even when I'm not being attacked, so for that reason I was drawn back. I've handled and shot my dad's, and I would still like to own one someday, but for now my G19 is staying my EDC.
As for the XDs, I have never shot one, but have always been interested in them. My only question is if you already have a G26, are you really gaining much by getting a XDs? In my opinion the size isn't enough of a change that I'd spend the money on one, and would rather go with the bodyguard. That way you have your Glocks when you can conceal something a little bigger, and the bodyguard for everything else. I don't think you'll be disappointed with either.
January 7th, 2014 06:09 PM
For the difference in price of the XDS 9 vs 45, a couple of boxes of ammo will eat that up. After that you are saving money with the 9mm, just an observation.
Tiny 380's have their place, but for me it is a very, very limited place. They get very little range time, and very little carry time. About the only time I carry a .380 is when I am dressed in a suit for a funeral.
Other than that, a sub compact .45 is the smallest (dimensionally) gun I carry.
Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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January 7th, 2014 06:12 PM
If you're leaning towards the XDs I'd recomend trying to find one to shoot first before you buy. That's a real small and realitively light weight gun pushing a big bullet. If you can accurately and quickly fire it, go for it. If you find yourself having problems with either the accuracy or speed then I'd look at something else.......Kahr PM9 perhaps.
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