Considering a back-up gun

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    Considering a back-up gun

    This BUG would primarily be for my on-duty work. (although I'm sure I can find other uses for it)

    I've narrowed my choices down to the new SIG 224 or the Glock 33 (both in .357 SIG).

    Both are very similar in size dimensions, with the SIG being a little heavier (as it is all metal). A LGS yesterday had one of each so we got them out and put them side-by-side.

    The big advantage to the SIG is that it also accepts the same mags as my duty weapon (Sig 229 in .357 SIG)--thus if my primary weapon became disabled, I could still quickly load and fire my standard mags off my duty belt. The big advantage to the Glock is price--I could buy 2 Glocks for the same price.
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    You made a good case that the BUG should be the Sig so you have compatibility and similar trigger pull with your 229.
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    Sig... No questions asked. Sharing mags between a duty weapon and a bug is indispensable

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    Another great reason for a BUG is it can be much quicker to deploy a second weapon when time is of the essence. As in what is called the New York reload. More so with us civilians is often times after using the primary SD gun some LEO have a tendency to take ones weapon for the ensuing investigation and never return the weapon. Never. EVER. Even when shoot is ruled justifiable some departments have this awful habit of stealing firearms from citizens. It is for this reason it is important to have more than one gun.
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    JMO, but since your looking at the same caliber as your duty weapon, the interchangeability of magazines outweighs the Glock being lighter. Plus you are use to the Sig trigger. I don't think to 7 oz weight difference outweighs the advantages the Sig will give you.
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    I think this is one time that price is not a factor. Being able to interchange mags rules in my opinion. In your profession, when the ball drops, you need any advantage you can get.
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    I think you answered your own question.
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    While I agree that having "on board" reserve mags for your BUG is great, and would be a tactical plus, I would offer one more thing to consider. Where you plan to carry your BUG has bearing on what to purchase as well. If for instance you will carry it in an ankle rig, I would take the Glock. They are less likely to be affected by dust, dirt, and other assorted nasties that it will get exposed to just from walking. If it will be in a location that will expose it to sweat, I would take the Glock as it will not harm the Tennifer finish. I have also seen ankle rig BUGs come loose and hit the pavement simply because they are not in as secure a holster as the duty sidearm. So, sliding a Sig across asphalt, gumming it up with grime, and sweating on it for hours while working traffic control at an event or traffic accident is not something I want to do to a Sig because of dollar value. I guess then my vote would be for the Glock. Considering that a BUG is often a last ditch, the on-board ammo capacity would likely be sufficient to save your bacon. If you have room on your duty belt, you can always stow a backup mag in a single mag/knife sheath out of the way. If you use a G22 mag for this role then you would have 25 rounds or so available. The cost savings is also a plus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaplain Scott View Post
    The big advantage to the Glock is price--I could buy 2 Glocks for the same price.
    If that's the case then buy a G31 or 32 to go with the G33 and completely switch over to Glock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaplain Scott View Post
    This BUG would primarily be for my on-duty work. (although I'm sure I can find other uses for it)

    I've narrowed my choices down to the new SIG 224 or the Glock 33 (both in .357 SIG).

    Both are very similar in size dimensions, with the SIG being a little heavier (as it is all metal). A LGS yesterday had one of each so we got them out and put them side-by-side.

    The big advantage to the SIG is that it also accepts the same mags as my duty weapon (Sig 229 in .357 SIG)--thus if my primary weapon became disabled, I could still quickly load and fire my standard mags off my duty belt. The big advantage to the Glock is price--I could buy 2 Glocks for the same price.
    That would be the deciding factor for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJC7 View Post
    If that's the case then buy a G31 or 32 to go with the G33 and completely switch over to Glock.
    OOOHHH he went there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! I am an admitted Glockaholic, but I simply must admit that a Sig is a finely crafted instrument. For LE work I prefer Glocks for many reasons. All of the engineering aspects aside, they do offer the best possible package at the best price mark on the market today.
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    Ghost hit on what I was thinking. I ankle carry either a S&W J frame .38 spec Classic, (standard weight), or an LCP. Weight makes a difference, especially when walking.

    Its a bit like having an exercise ankle weight on one leg only, with a heavier gun.
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    Is price a priority? If not Sig. If it is then Glock. Done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OD* View Post
    That would be the deciding factor for me.
    I agree....it is really hard not to consider the advantages of interchangeable mags and identical firing systems. Much like the Glock 31 and G33 aspect pointed out. I was always rough on equipment when on patrol, as to the fact I was involved in proactive enforcement measures. So I lean naturally to the "rough and ready" / "Mil-Spec" aspect of gear. Unlike you refined gentlemen of the Sig and Custom 1911 group who have all the class and social graces (Not to say that a Sig or SUPER NICE 1911 like yours isn't up to snuff, which they are. I just fought to many drunks and dope dealers to DIGNIFY their existence with a grand sidearm of yours and Chaplain Scott's!)
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    I am biased against the P224 just because that grip is so darn fat for a gun you can only get two fingers on.
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