Para Ord. Feed Problems

Para Ord. Feed Problems

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    Para Ord. Feed Problems

    I have an older Para Ordnance P-10.45 that has been giving me problems for a while now. I'm just about to replace it, but I thought I would start a thread and see if someone has any suggestions other than what I've already tried.

    This thing will not shoot regular 230gr. fmj's reliably. I get 3-point jams aka stem bind. Sometimes its 1 in 100 rds. and sometimes it's 1 in 20. It's really erratic.

    The first thing I did was replace the recoil spring.
    Then I polished the feed ramp and throat.
    Then I replaced the magazine springs.
    Then I replaced the extractor.

    I was going to give up at this point, but I found this article on M1911.org about 3-point jams and "riding the link".

    http://www.m1911.org/full_technic.htm

    The 3-point jam link is about 1/3 down the page if your interested in reading it.
    After reading a few times to understand what he is talking about, I checked my gun out and it appears that it does in fact ride on the link rather than the bottom lug. I followed the instructions for filing the top of the bottom link hole, and it certainly feeds fmj's better by hand at least. I'll go shoot a couple hundred rounds in a little bit and I'll let you guys know how it worked out.

    Anyways, if anyone has any other suggestions I would certainly like to hear them!

    BTW, it feeds Ranger T, and other premium hollow points very well.


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    I had a Para Ordnance .45 LDA CCO last year, I let it go after very similar problems.
    My gun store where I bought it used were really good to me and let me trade it in for what I paid for it against a SIG.
    It's a shame as the Para was a very accurate gun, but FTFs are not acceptable and do not inspire any confidence.

    It sounds like you have done everything that I did to mine in order to try and beat the problem, I sent mine to Para twice too.
    It just didn't work.
    I let it go.

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    I would much prefer you replace the link rather than fileing it , fileing can create other problems of its own if done wrongly . a barrel replacement may be in order if it was fitted wrong to start with and the lugs are short from the factory. For the record the only para i eaver owned ( a p12 ) would feed anything including empty cases that were fired thro it .
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    A few years ago I bought a new LDA-45, and had the same problems that you're having. I wasn't willing to modify an $800 gun to make it reliable, so I sold it and bought a S&W 457S($459). In two and a half years, and about 3,000 rounds, I never had a malfunction of any kind.

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    Well, I got through 80 rounds today and then 2 FTF's. I'm done.

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    Did you check the breech face to see if its rough ?

    Ill give ya 50$ for the Para :)

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    This Para LTC has been 100% reliable since new, over a year ago.

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    It's Fixed!!!!!

    Ok, so just before I went to order a Colt, my tv goes out...2 DAYS out of warranty! That put the Colt option out the door.

    So I take another look at the gun. With the barrel removed, if you slide a round up the ramp, and over into the chamber, there is a very narrow angle that the bullet binds. No matter how hard you push (along the axis of the slide travel), it will not budge. So I held it up to the light, and I could see that it is binding at the top, and 2 little spots on the rounded bottom edge. At this point I'm figuring I have nothing to lose, so I break out the 2000 grit sandpaper and start rounding the bottom 2 points off...just a little bit. I kept working it until the binding was decreased. In fact I had to push down on the cartridge to get it to bind.

    I took it to the range a little bit ago. Fired a couple of rounds, and inspected them because I was worried about the case being unsupported in that area. Everything looked good, so I continued.

    180 rounds later, it was still functioning flawlessy!!! I just about danced a little jig right there on the firing line!

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    TJ1231....were you in Meridian?

    By the way, congrats.
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    Nope, I'm in Boise. Thanks! So obviously I'm not selling it now, sorry.

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    very nice how about a pic of where you did the work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alias View Post
    I had a Para Ordnance .45 LDA CCO last year, I let it go after very similar problems.
    I have a CCO, and it chokes on Remington UMC 230grn (wally world special) but will eat anything and everything else I've fed it.

    tj1231,
    Is the problem with a particular brand of ammo or any 230grn?
    Does it have the same problem with other ammo (185grn etc)??
    Is it doing it with one particular mag or a bunch of mags???

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    Here are the best pics I could get.
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    So you basically throated the barrel

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