January 13th, 2007 11:06 PM
Colt Concealed Carry
Colt's newest entry in the CCW market, unveiled at SHOT Show.
January 13th, 2007 11:11 PM
Welcome to the board.
I saw that today at SHOT.....I spoke to one of the Colt reps there about it. I gave him my honest opinion and said that I wouldn't bother getting that gun due to the "trough" sighting system that Kimber puts on one of their guns too. You are struggling to get any kind of decent grouping past 10 yards.....I tried the Kimber with the same "sights" and had such troubles.....
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January 13th, 2007 11:20 PM
Well its known I'm a Big 1911 fan
And I'm happy colt is trying something new
They Missed the Bus on this
No ambi safety
Crappy Grip safety spur
I'll buy a Defender First
Or STI's New Officer sized Gun
January 13th, 2007 11:25 PM
Looks like a good carry and close quarters pistol,without a bunch of bells and whistles. I think it will do well in the marketplace.
January 13th, 2007 11:27 PM
Yea, I have to agree.
Originally Posted by Bud White
I'm sure this aint cheap... they aren't giving them away. Where are the goodies.. sights etc?
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January 13th, 2007 11:31 PM
Basically a Lightweight Officers model with a guttersnipe (sort of) sight system - a reverse recoil spring plug & an old style 1911 Thumb Safety. OH...and some serrations on the front strap.
You guys don't like the GutterSnipe type sight system for a strictly self defensive carry gun?
I don't see a problem with the system strictly for its intended purpose.
Too bad that they didn't match the original gutter type sight exactly. That would have been better.
Absolutely...it's not a target gun.
Looking at the top of the slide it does not look like it would be too very difficult to have standard sights installed if you wanted them on there.
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January 13th, 2007 11:35 PM
there only going for 885$ recommended price
Gutter Snipe might be all right but its not for me
January 13th, 2007 11:35 PM
"If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking" - George S. Patton.
January 13th, 2007 11:40 PM
January 13th, 2007 11:47 PM
You KNOW that the 1911 Choppers and customizers are going to have a wild field day with that one.
Yer going to see front strap checkering...beavertail...satin Chrome ~ zippy custom melted milled in
add on sights...Flared Mag Well Crimson Trace will maybe whup up a nifty laser for it.
I don't know WHY these Colt people don't ask ME to design a G~Dam Flawlessly Perfect Carry gun for them.
I would do it for free....plus one complimentary pistol.
The only conclusion that I can come to is that the Colt folks have rocks in their heads for not knowing what EXACTLY the majority of defensive shooters WANT in a compact Self Defense carry handgun.
They can never get it 100% right.
January 13th, 2007 11:49 PM
...not for me...not based on the shooting I did!
For "CQB" shooting, I'd rather have the XS Sight System "Big Dot" tritium sights.
The STI LS-series has tiny sights that are very functional. I think Colt should have mirrored STI.
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January 14th, 2007 12:23 AM
$885 which means they will really sell for about $700. Think I'll take a wait and see on this one, I'll say they probably either pull it or redesign it within a year! My Gov't or Commander models can do everything it can do and more!
January 14th, 2007 08:12 AM
Critique of new Colt 3 inch CCW gun...
This is essentially a Colt Defender with some modifications. My comment on the modifications:
1. Slim grip panels instead of clunky rubber panels - this is good on a CCW gun - I did the same to my Defender by buying $25 slim rosewood panels on Ebay.
2. Grip safety tang instead of Defender duckbill - why not go to a high swept beavertail, which most people prefer? I bought a drop in beavertail from Wilson for about $35 to put on my Defender.
3. Dark anodize on aluminum frame and dark finish on steel slide instead of stainless on Defender - okay if you like dark instead of stainless, but a matter of personal taste - most companies offer your choice of one or the other (Kimber, Springfield, etc.)
4. Old style thumb safety lever - nothing wrong with the Defender thumb safety, so why? Nostalgia for 1945?
5. Groove instead of sights - the Defender sights are not a problem, and very helpful in longer range shots.
6. Front "ledge" on slide for press check - at least they didn't serrate it, but I never use this myself and its a throwaway to me.
7. Backstrap - I can't tell from the photo, but I'll bet its still plastic - I replaced mine on the Defender with checkered stainless steel for about $35 - the plastic just looks cheap and doesn't grab your hand like checkered stainless.
8. Mags - Why not put on a 7 round Wilson Combat Officer's size mag instead of that 6 round Colt mag? People like one more round and it would give you an edge on Kimber and their crappy mags. I immediately bought Wilson 7 rounders for my Defender.
The one thing I see here that is positive for Colt is the probable $700 price point - this is less than a new Defender and less than a Kimber Ultra or Springfield micro, I believe. This may be their main motive for this move. Here is my "modified" Defender and what I would offer if I were running Colt:
January 14th, 2007 09:09 AM
and thanks for the pics...
Too much $ for no sights...OK for BG's within 'spitting range'...
I'll stick with my Kimber!
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January 14th, 2007 09:37 AM
Well, I'm new here. Just imported from those "other forums". I'm a dyed in the wool 1911 guy, carrying either a Lwt. Commander, a Wilson CQB Compact, a Kimber Ultra CDP, or an H&K P7M8 or a BHP on rare occasion now. I think that many buyers, especially newbies, want an inexpensive 3" .45 ACP platform for CCW. Neither the Kimber, the Defender, or the Springer have succeeded in winning over the public. Frankly, I would carry any 3" gun almost exclusively if I could find one that ran 100%. I've had my Kimber Ultra CDP (pre Series II) worked on again and it may run with certain ammo. Then there's the whole "Will it expand from that 3" barrel" question.
No matter what the mods or features that Colt could choose to offer, there would be many who want it another way. That's the nature of the beast. That's ok too, 1911 people have always liked it that way. Anything can be changed later. If I had been convinced previously that a Defender would run 100% I would have already bought one. If the alloy frame could take it, and the gun would run with CorBon DPX or even Powerball and not crack for 20,000 rds or so, that would be better still. I'd settle for 10,000 rds, and happily change the springs every 800-900 rds. I'd have preferred a few things to be different on this new gun but I still think it'll sell. Will Colt make them fast enough to get them in the stores ? I KNOW they would sell if they were widely available and dependable too. Wishful thinking ...Tom
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