Why did I buy a .45 ACP Derringer?

Why did I buy a .45 ACP Derringer?

This is a discussion on Why did I buy a .45 ACP Derringer? within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; 3305979_01_bond_arms_new_backup__640.jpg Yesterday I bought a Bond Arms Backup .45 ACP Derringer. It is the third Derringer I have bought in the last two years. I ...

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    Why did I buy a .45 ACP Derringer?

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    Yesterday I bought a Bond Arms Backup .45 ACP Derringer. It is the third Derringer I have bought in the last two years. I sold off the first two. One was a .410/45 LC and the other a .22 Magnum. Every time I sold one, I missed it. I like to have a gun for all occasions and on occasion, I like to have a spare gun that I can easily get too when I am driving and my main gun is either in my pocket or on my belt; not the easiest to draw when you need to draw right now. I also used it to keep in my desk draw so when someone came to the house during the day, I could slip it into a pocket just in case.

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    I have guns scattered all over my house, in handgun safes. However, the problem is that I still have to get out of my recliner, no easy task with an electric one, and get to the safe and use my fingers to tap out my programmed pattern to open it. I found it easy to just lay a Derringer down on my end table to use if needed to boy some time or even stop a single threat. I did not realize all the little gaps that my Derringers filled. When wearing a jacket or coat while carrying IWB, I like something small in my jacket/coat pocket that is safe to carry and has a small footprint. I cannot explain my fascination with Derringers. I just keep buying and selling them.

    I thought I was done with Derringers when I bought my NAA Pug in .22 magnum. 5 shots of .22 magnum is nothing to sneeze at. Just the noise it makes will startle all around me. The problem is that although I like my PUG, it is small and I like the feel of something with heft to it and with a larger caliber. I liked my /410/45LC Derringer a lot. The new loads of .410 for personal defense patterned very good for the ones that do not have lots of tiny BBs in them. I shot mine at the range and I could hit a human sized target at 10 yards with no problem. Sure it has a tiny grip but it is not that difficult to shoot with a little practice. I thought it the perfect anti carjacking gun to tuck into my belt in a cross draw position when I was carrying my main gun in my pocket or on belt. It was with me while at home as it seemed perfect for at home distances, at least in my small retirement home.

    Bond Arms makes the best and are made in the USA. They have a rebounding hammer AND a cross bolt safety. It will not go off if you drop it on its hammer like so many who get their info from old posts, will say. They are built like tanks and not very lightweight. The weight makes a big difference in recoil though. Shooting a Bond Arms Derringer is not as bad as you think. Less recoil than some of my very lightweight guns. I read so many posts complaining about a 20 lb. trigger pull that is almost impossible to use. If those people would just take the time to read the manual, they will see that you have to pull down and back, not straight back like with a regular gun. The actual pull weight is more like 8 lbs., lighter than some of my revolvers.

    The one I just ordered is not shiny. I do not like shiny guns. If I am in the dark I do not want any moonlight or lamp light reflecting off of my gun. There is absolutely no need to own a shiny working gun. However, I was in a gun store when a guy came in and asked for a shiny gun because they shoot better. :) True story. What I also like about Bond Arms Derringers is that you can easily change barrels to shoot anything from a .22 to a .45, except for .380 which they do not like. Not only can I change the caliber but also the length of the barrel so that I can go up to a 4" one. That is as long or longer than some of my carry guns and since it weighs more, less recoil.

    I have a lot of ammo in calibers that I no longer own guns for. The Bond Arms Derringer lets me find a use for all of that expensive JHP ammo I kept as it appreciates in value better than Gold. :) With a .22 magnum, you hardly feel it at all. Of course, the two main drawbacks to a Derringer are its Single Action and two shot capacity. What if I get attached by two or more people? What if I have to take a shot across a shopping mall? What if I run into a gang of 20 bad guys and I only have a Glock 26? What if and what if?

    OK, I get it, 2 rounds is not desirable when I have snub nose guns that weight much less and let me shoot 5 .357 magnum rounds. However, carrying one as a BUG just feels good for some reason. Maybe it is because I grew up in the 50's when cowboys were our heroes. I saw many a movie where a Derringer saved the day and I guess that stuck with me. I also played with snub nose toy guns because that was what they used on Dragnet and other detective TV shows and movies. You dirty rat. Look Ma, I am on top of the world. You old times know what I am talking about. My water guns were all 1911 shaped. Do you think that is why I like those guns today and feel very comfortable with them. Ya think?

    Anyway, look at the gun and you will see that if you have the spare money, it is a cool gun to have. I saw the videos and the recoil is not bad with the .45 ACP but I will also get the 9mm barrel because that is what I carry the most. I will buy the 4" .410/.45 LC barrel because that gives me a small double barreled shotgun. Call me crazy but I still like a stage coach type double barrel shotgun to use with my pistols if I hear a bump in the night. Once again, the old cowboy movies. I also lived in Texas when I got out of the Army so western stuff is in my blood. I will put my new derringer in the center console of my car, in a desk draw, on an end table in a little box or anywhere else a small gun will fit.

    So many tell me how stupid it is to carry one as a main CCW gun on occasion, and I do like when I drive directly from my house to the barber shop. I live in a place where there are 100,000 senior citizens and all of the places I go, are within that community. No teens, no gangs and few under 55 years of age. The funny thing is those guys who get on my case for carrying it, are not carrying any gun at all because they say it is safe where we live and their guns are too uncomfortable and difficult to conceal in the hot Florida summers. I say, two rounds of a large caliber or .410 is better than a sharp stick if it is either that or nothing at all.

    I almost forgot. You can buy a cross draw holster to wear while you are driving. While I would not recommend a Derringer as a main carry gun unless you take it with you when you normally would not take a gun. Sort of like why I wear some of my wrist watches. These days you can look at your phone and see the time. Heck, I can ask Siri what time it is and do the same with my car's system. I just like to carry some things that make me feel all warm and fuzzy, even if they are not as good as other modern day things. :)

    P.S. - since the guns are built like tanks, you can use +P loads as far as I know. They are also great guns for snakes when loaded with snake shot. I rather have .45 ACP snake shot than the .22 version. We have gators all over the place here and a nice Derringer would come in handy if a gator is trying to drag you under. They are actually easy to kill with a shot into their brain which is approximately in the middle of their eyes but set back behind them. The bang sticks used to kill them legally are mostly .22's. Just grab that handy Derringer and put it to the head of the gator and press the trigger before you go into shock. :)
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    I like the modern take on the derringer, the Double-Tap. I'm continually tempted to buy one. It's available in .45, but I think I would get the 9mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmf552 View Post
    I like the modern take on the derringer, the Double-Tap. I'm continually tempted to buy one. It's available in .45, but I think I would get the 9mm.

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    First read the articles and see the YouTube videos about double fires and a while lot of other problems. Some of the online places I deal with, will not sell it anymore. They are too light for their caliber and apparently have a high failure rate that sometimes is very dangerous. People have had to have stiches when it fired both barrels at the same time. Buyer beware and buy what you like but I waited years for this gun to hit the market only to read negative review after negative review and then stories about double fires. If it was a good gun, I would own it because of what it is.
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    Doc Holiday carried a 41 caliber derringer as a riverboat gun from some accounts. There is a place for everything.
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    Well I don't need to write an epic dissertation as to why I have a derringer.

    Cause they are cool!

    Bond with .45/410, .357/38, and .22 barrels. Whatever fits my mood.

    Plus I live in a gambling town. Can't be a real poker player without a derringer up your sleeve or tucked under a garter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunTeacher View Post
    Well I don't need to write an epic dissertation as to why I have a derringer.

    Cause they are cool!

    Bond with .45/410, .357/38, and .22 barrels. Whatever fits my mood.

    Plus I live in a gambling town. Can't be a real poker player without a derringer up your sleeve or tucked under a garter.


    Live near an Indian casino? I have 2 casino's within say 20 miles or less.

    BOT I have a buddy who has a SS 45 Derringer. I think it's a long Colt. IDK if it will take 45ACP. Seems to me the 45ACP would work since OAL is shorter. I might be mistaken.
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    Wife carries a 9mm derringer as a back up belly gun for those intimate nose nose moments should they arise or in a worst case cant get to my primary get off me gun.

    Ive seriously thought about getting a 45 Bond as my buddy has one. He loves it. Ive shot it. I can think of uses for it in specific situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old_Dog View Post
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    I owned two bond arms .. Sold them both in two days .. They kicked too hard and the push bolt saftey I did not like ... Really they were two darn big and heavy for what they were which was last ditch guns

    Honestly the only double barrels I still have ..And wont sell are the Hi stander derringer .. They are what a derringer should be light slim no saftey no hammer .. Just pull and let them have it .. Great guns .. Here is a photo ( not mine ) 359027d1337622703-derringer-22-mag-high-standard-high-standard-derringer-mod.-dm-101-pistol-.22-.jpg
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    I used to have a Bond Arms 45/410 and it is very definitely a quality firearm. Those that never fired one would often post that Bond Arms are not much good beyond arms length. I had no problems putting bullets inside a six inch target at 7 yards......well beyond arms length. And, as the OP noted, the new, handgun based 410 ammo will put five 00 pellets on a six inch group at five yards from a Bond Arms. I did sell mine, but them I have sold a lot of really good guns. There are god reasons to want and own a Bond Arms. People can make arguments for why they never would own one. I know of at least one verified case of a car jacker meeting his end from a 410 shot from a Bond Arms. To each his own. They have their shortcomings for certain uses, they are rather heavy relative to modern compact guns, they do only hold two rounds, the hammer is heavy....but it was a fun gun to own and it shot far better than those silly "only good at arms length" posts would suggest.

    To each his own, but I often think about picking up another just because it was so fun and I shot it well.

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    I've been tempted by those derringers, but I'd have to shoot one first.
    They do look like a high quality item.

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    I still do not understand the purpose of a derringer ,its got 2 shots and for the price I can buy
    plenty of other options that hold 5 or more rounds.. I wish I could grasp the concept LOL

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    I've wanted a Bond Arms derringer for a couple of years now. However, I just couldn't justify getting one when I could get a lighter gun that holds more ammo for the same price. My next gun purchase is going to be a 1911. But after that, I plan on getting that Bond Arms I've been wanting.

    On a side note, I've read complaints about long/hard/choppy/etc. triggers for just about every gun (except a 1911), so I don't take any heed to them. I've either owned or had the opportunity to shoot a few of the guns that are notorious for having "terrible" triggers, and I've never experienced one that made me want to sell or never shoot that gun again. I don't know, maybe that will change once I get a 1911. I've shot a couple, and they both had really nice triggers. I guess I could see where someone could get spoiled by them.

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    I really like my Bond Arms 45/410 !
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    Is that one your wife caught you looking at on line and told you to buy it kuz she thinks it cute?

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