Guns with Decocking Lever

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    Guns with Decocking Lever

    I would like to know what pistols have decocking levers like my Sig P229 has. I am looking for a small .40 cal pistol with a decocking lever. Want something like the Springfield Armory EMP size. I like that first shot to be a double action...I just feel it is a safer gun that way. Any Suggestions.
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    How about the Sig 239 in .40?

    I had one in 9mm (with which I never should have parted) and it had a decocker. Great gun.

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    Beretta PX4 SubCompact...should be out in a few weeks.

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    de-cocking lever

    USP compact. They make them in 9mm, .40, .357, and .45. They are a little larger than the EMP however. Several of the variations have de-cocking levers, and I know from experience they are great guns. Here is the site and the variations you can obtain.

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    Maybe try out the small Walther P99c (compact) .40 AS pistol. The "AS" variant model is a true DA/SA trigger system pistol; however, the P99 and P99c pistols incorporate a decocker button on the slide, as to the normal decocker frame lever like on Sigs.

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    Nice

    Sweet....I like that Beretta Storm Sub Compact and with a MSRP of 575 dollars that is definately in my budget. I think I found my next gun When are they due out? couple weeks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hivoltage View Post
    Sweet....I like that Beretta Storm Sub Compact and with a MSRP of 575 dollars that is definately in my budget.
    If you want the Sig style decocking lever (decocker only as opposed to a safety/decocker) make sure you get the 'G' model.

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    Mine not a SUB COMPACT, but KP944 nevertheless

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    OK...what is the difference between a decocker and a safety decocker?
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    Quote Originally Posted by randytulsa2 View Post
    How about the Sig 239 in .40?

    I had one in 9mm (with which I never should have parted) and it had a decocker. Great gun.
    I'll second that! I carry a Sig P239 in 9mm, but I want another in .40. I love this gun.
    Since you already own a Sig you know there is no more reliable gun in the world. In my opinion anyway.
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    Safety De-Cocker vs Decocker

    Quote Originally Posted by Hivoltage View Post
    OK...what is the difference between a decocker and a safety decocker?
    Same same......... there is no difference. Anyone else? am I wrong?

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    Not sure on this but, a decocker is springloaded goes back up to fire position automatically where as a safety/decocker you would need to manually place back into a firing position?

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    safety decocker is like the beretta,S&W 40006 , ect. safety -decocker is 1 part. does both functions. decocker only would be like the sig , walther ect. Seperate lever, switch .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hivoltage View Post
    OK...what is the difference between a decocker and a safety decocker?
    There are four basic kinds of safeties and decockers:

    Safety lever: Only functions as a safety. Moving the lever safes the gun, but doesn't affect the position of the hammer. Examples: 1911s, Browning Hi-Powers, some HK USPs.

    Single-stage decocking lever: Only functions as a decocker. You move the lever to decock the gun, then it springs back into place. Exampls: most SIGs, some models of the HK USP and P2000, various Beretta pistols.

    Two-stage safety/decocking lever: Functions as both a safety and a decocker. Moving the lever decocks the gun and activates the safety. You have to manually move the lever back to the firing position in order to fire. Guns using this system cannot be carried cocked and locked, because activating the safety also lowers the hammer. Examples: Some Beretta pistols (including the M9/92FS), many S&W and Ruger pistols.

    Three position safety/decocking lever: Functions as both a safety and a decocker. However, unlike the two stage system described above, the safety and decocking functions can be engaged seperately. Moving the lever one way decocks the gun (after being decocked the lever generally springs back to the middle position, somewhat like a single stage decocker). Moving the lever the opposite direction engages the safety. Probably the most versatile system, since it's the only one to allow a gun to be carried cocked and locked, decocked and unlocked, and decocked and locked. Examples: Some HK USPs, some Taurus pistols.

    There are some other arraignments (such as the separate safety and decocking levers on the HK Mk23) but those are oddballs. Most guns that have a manual safety or decocking lever will have one of these systems.

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    Getting back to the Beretta Storm that Hivoltage was thinking about getting, the 'G' model has a single-stage decocking lever, while the 'F' has a two-stage safety/decocking lever (see this page). IIRC, Beretta uses the same nomenclature for most of their pistols (so a 92G is decocker only, while a 92F has both a decocker and a safety).
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    What about the new Berreta Cougars? I think they have the decocker and a great gun at double the asking price.
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