Seeking Someone Smarter Than Me

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    Seeking Someone Smarter Than Me

    I was given a Ruger KP-89 some time ago. It's my only automatic pistol. It's not really something I am considering for a carry piece, but I'm looking at seeing what it is I can do to make it one.

    I've long since added Hogue monogrips. Best damn gun accessory I ever bought. Improved the pistol's accuracy, ergonomics, and looks 300%.

    I bought three Mec Gar brand nickel plated 17 round magazines that fit flush with the butt of the pistol. I find the grip plus the full capacity magazine actually makes the pistol much easier to handle. The extra weight in the butt really balances it out.

    I had a brain storm today. See I've been practicing with it a lot lately because I want to qualify this Saturday with an automatic, and since I only have the one, well I don't have a lot of choices.

    Its size and weight aside (even with the polymer frame it's a heavy pistol and it is pretty thick), the one thing that keeps me from using this as a carry pistol is that it has that external safety I'm afraid of. I'm afraid it would save my from myself.

    Well anyway after putting 250 rounds downrange at 15 yards as a quick last minute practice before Saturday, I made sure to clean it especially well. I keep my guns needlessly clean anyway and I made a special effort this time.

    I had the slide group apart soaking in some cleaner and I was cleaning the frame when I noticed the little ka-jigger on the frame that made the manual safety work was a little bar that gets depressed whenever you set the manual safety to "on". When this bar is depressed, the trigger is disabled.

    I took a pic of the decock only model of the P89 from Ruger's site and circled the kajigger. I attached it to the post.

    My question is, could I just get a decock only slide somewhere and reuse the spring, retaining pin, and barrel from my existing slide group? Would it just be that easy to convert it to a decock only model?

    The thing is I have no idea where I'd get the parts even if it is just that simple. From the factory?
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    Should work only controls change in a ruger are in the slide between decock and manual safety... Ebay would be place to get slide assy ...

    Also the kp-89 isnt a polymer frame its a Alloy frame


    Rugers are ok to carry i have a p-90 but its too wide and heavy to carry run into the same problem with width on my Hk

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    Thank you for the correction Bud. I say things I don't mean sometimes.

    Ebay eh? Never thought to check there.

    Edit: Damn the luck, they do have a slide on Ebay that would work but it's blued finish.
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    Yeah or gun broker .. Factory wont sell ya they parts but it usually wont be cheep ebay either min of 100 usually

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    Wouldn't a modified safety be a Persecuting Attorney's wet dream? Or is this not that big of modification?

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    If it works like I understand it works BassDaddy I'm not modifying the safety at all. I'm just using a different slide just like I'm not using the factory grips.

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    Well the deal seems to be that I can either seem to get a complete slide group with a blued slide, a complete parts group with a blued slide, or the stainless slide I want for $115 which is too much...

    http://www.e-gunparts.com/product.as...ductSKU=849340

    There's got to be a better answer.

    Edit: Actually it seems there isn't a better answer. Not sure if this is worth $115 to me at the moment. Next paycheck perhaps.
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    Im not sure if i would go though the hassle myself would just look for a different or carry it like i do my p-90 decocked safety off

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    Call Ruger and see how much it will cost to change it over.
    Keep the shotgun handy!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bud White
    Im not sure if i would go though the hassle myself would just look for a different or carry it like i do my p-90 decocked safety off
    My concern there Bud is that the safety may accidentally engage.

    I'm not sure how dedicated I am to this idea anyway. I'm probably better off putting the $115 this would cost towards the gun safe fund anyway.

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    ive never had a problem but i understand your concern with that

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    Actually I think I have it.

    What if I bought a blue slide and had it nickel plated? This would actually cost less than buying a new steel slide.

    http://www.shootiniron.com/PRICES.html

    $40 to do a slide.

    Then get these parts

    http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=28599425

    $40

    I know the nickel slide will be a bit of a pain in the ass to keep looking good, but is there any reason that wouldn't work? I could carry the plated slide and use the stainless one I already have for practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euclidean
    I know the nickel slide will be a bit of a pain in the ass to keep looking good, but is there any reason that wouldn't work? I could carry the plated slide and use the stainless one I already have for practice.
    Have it done in a matte nickel finish.
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    that might not fit then it might ya have to watch on rugers and p-85 i think is manual safety only and that says there from p-85 in the pic

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    Well those parts are just an example.

    If I go this way, and just look for a cheap blued slide, I can take my time and find a deal and make sure it's okay.

    Edit: And my dad has a P85. His slide fits my gun and vice versa.

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