Anyone have a para carry 12?

Anyone have a para carry 12?

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    Anyone have a para carry 12?

    I am looking for a para carry 12. I love the LDA trigger. I want the carry 12 just because it has the 12 round mag. Let me know if you have one and how you like it.

    Tim


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    i had the original p12, traded it back in as i wasnt willing to have the 'smith finetune it to meet my specs. imo, it needed the edges rounded. i tried carrying it once and it dug into my fat waist.

    i handled one of the p12's with the lda once at a gunshop. i wish other manufacturers would do something similar, like kimber.

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    I have one!! I carry it every day. It replaced the C7.45. Pretty close to the same sized grip with double the capacity. I have about a thousand rounds thru it, no problems after about the 1st 200. I put in the extra oomph magazine springs. Very satisfied with it. Good luck with yours.

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    Hardly anybody in my IDPA club will compete with any ParaOrd LDA gun. Many of them won't carry them on the street, either. I have owned one of the standard P10s and I HATED it. It was constantly jamming and refusing to extract. I traded it for my now standard carry gun: a Sig P245.

    OTOH many of my buddies are RAVING about a new sig sauer model that seems to be every bit as DA "trigger friendly" as the LDA's. They are called LEM's (for Law Enforcement Model) yet can be sold to civilians as well.
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    hiya TMiner
    you might want to Kittery trading Post in Kittery maine. they have one, and I've seen it.. looks VERY GOOD in fit and finish 90% for about 525.00 you can make the deal, and they will ship to your FFL...... Just helping out here. WWW.KTP.Com in the Used guns section...

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    I am now carrying a Para C7.45 - single stack version of the 12 - and I would not part with it. It has the best out of box trigger of any unmodified defense gun I have ever owned - and I have owned a BUNCH of them. It is also the most accurate defense gun I have ever owned. Also 100% reliable with anything I put through it.
    Prior to the C7.45 I carried a Para P14.40 and had no problems with it. I just found the LDA trigger and accuracy to be better.

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    thanks everyone. Keep them coming. I appreciate all the input. Good and bad.

    For those looking for a gun like me. I ran across a online site that looks to have good prices. www.sportingarms.com

    Check it out. A para ordnance carry 12 over there is 725.00 A very good price.

    Tim

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    I have had my P12 for some time but - it has spent too long in the safe for my liking. Trigger - great. Accuracy - great. Reliability? Not so good. I did recently get to fitting mags with uprated Wolff springs and last test it ran way better, but not 100%, and that was with ball ammo too.

    Have to say - this would not be on the ''most trusted'' list for carry.


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    Exclamation SURVIVAL=100% reliability

    Quote Originally Posted by P95Carry
    I have had my P12 for some time but - it has spent too long in the safe for my liking. Trigger - great. Accuracy - great. Reliability? Not so good. I did recently get to fitting mags with uprated Wolff springs and last test it ran way better, but not 100%, and that was with ball ammo too.

    Have to say - this would not be on the ''most trusted'' list for carry.
    Yup. Gotta work ALL the time, everytime. That's exactly the reason I have ditched every single sub four inch 1911 I have ever owned. Jams and failures to feed or extract don't discriminate: I have dumped a ParaOrdnance P10, a Colt Officer's Model and a Springfield Armory "Micro." The only recurring theme was that all were under four inches on the barrel. I submit (as Jeff Cooper seems to agree according to a recent column) that 1911's under four inches are inherently flawed. I wrote Cooper a personal letter c/o GunSite and he responded with a personally signed note agreeing and THEN it turned up in a column.

    But the ParaOrdances seem to be more prone to trouble. Very few people in my IDPA club uses them in competitions (springs wear out FAST) and they seem to have more than their fair share of jams, failures to feed (which is almost always a mag problem and Wollf springs don't seem to help) and failures to extract. Yes the PO has this really nifty trigger system and some are hi-cap, but I won't risk my life or my family's life on something that can easily be topped by a Glock or an H&K or a Sig.
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    If every thing goes as plannned I will come back from the Gunshow in Tampa this weekend with a P 12 LDA. I have handled one, and although the grip is a little thicker than the sigle stack 7-45, the difference is not an kissue.

    I would ( in fact do ) trust my Para completely.It is utterly reliable, dead accurate, and the trigger can't be beat.

    Only thing I will say is that the springs suck, and need to be replaced frequently. Not a problem, that is why Wolf is in business.

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    It looks like if you find a good para you are good to go. I will have to do some thinking on this. Right now I carry the XD40sc. I love the gun. But you know how it is. You see and you want. I love the look and the lines of the para. I want a sig also but the size of the sig is holding me back. I will have to do some side by side comps.

    Thanks

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    you can't go wrong

    i have had a para for about 8 months now got it new a P12-45S i won't be trading it in for a long time (I love this gun!) here is what helped me,
    1 get it!
    2 clean it
    3 polish the feeding slide on the barrel
    4 put about 350 rounds in it
    5 get new springs for the magz
    6 get a adj. sight if it dose not have one
    7 come back here and tell people how much you love the gun

    the only prob. i have had with this thing is mag springs, wolf ammo, the sights(there a little low for me 20 yards), and it is a bit heavy

    this thing shoots well right out of the box every thing is made to work together. I have had a springfeild 1911-A1 i would rather take one p12 then two 1911. i have traded a kimber ultra shadow L.E. II, a p89 9mm, and a colt 1911 4" s/s. and it para p 12 is the best so far, if you pick it up and like it buy it.

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