Next carry gun, H&K p2000 or kimber 1911

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    Next carry gun, H&K p2000 or kimber 1911

    So here I sit with extra money in the bank that smells of hoppes and burnt powder. I've narrowed it down to two. A Kimber Ultra Carry II, or an H&K p2000. Right now I own/carry a sig p229r(DAK). My concern mainly is the bulk and weight of the sig. Input appreciated!

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    Both are good choices

    I have a Sig P229 and can appreciate your comment about the bulk and weight of the gun for carry. It weighs about 32 ounces empty and is fairly thick through the slide and grip.

    Of the two alternatives you mention, either one would be lighter weight than the P229, as the H&K P2000 and the Kimber Ultra both weigh about 24-25 ounces empty, and have smaller dimensions than the Sig. By the way, was the H&K you mention the larger P2000 or the smaller P2000sk model? The latter is quite compact, weighs about 21 ounces, and holds about 10 rounds of .40 caliber ammo.

    I believe the decision comes down to your feelings about .40 vs. .45, polymer (P2000) vs. aluminum (Kimber ultra), and whether you want cocked and locked single action only (Kimber) or a double action trigger (the H&K). Both the guns you mentioned have good reputations and are quite concealable. The P2000 would give you more magazine capacity in .40 than the Kimber Ultra in .45.


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    I vote for the Kimber!
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    I vote for the Kimber, too.

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    That is a tough decision. I love the USPc but not really a fan of the P2000. I like to carry cocked and locked and you can't do that with the P2000. Because of this I would say go with the Kimber. I have an ultra carry and it is a great carry gun. Very accurate, well made, easy to conceal and its a blast to shoot.
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    Go with the Kimber. You will not be disappointed. If you have not carried a 1911 C/L before, there is a learning curve involved. It is not for the weak willed or those not willing to spend the time to train on the in's and out's of them. Once you get there, great platform.
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    Kimber...

    I carry the Ultra CDP II, daily...sometimes I do take the G-36 along (just for a change)...

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    I have a P2000SK LEM in 10mm Short.

    I'd go for the Kimber...

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    I do not own either but from handling and shooting both Kimbers and several P2000's and a few P2000sk's, I would recommend the P2000.

    But, I am big "Combat Tupperware" fan. I especially like the grip on the P2000sk.

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    1911 's are much thinner and easier to conceal.
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    1911. As far as concealment, that would be my vote. I'm a big H&K fan but I'd be looking at the USP Compact or P2000SK. Good luck with your decision!

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    1911.

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    and yes I was talking about the p2000sk. Another question, which will be easier to find goodies for, like mags and holsters. Something tells me the kimber?

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    P2000sk and Kimber Ultra similar size

    Quote Originally Posted by Smooth23 View Post
    and yes I was talking about the p2000sk. Another question, which will be easier to find goodies for, like mags and holsters. Something tells me the kimber?
    Okay, the P2000sk is more comparable to a 3 inch Kimber Ultra than the P2000 would be. The smaller P2000sk is 21 ounces empty and has about the same height and length as the Kimber Ultra. The slide of the P2000sk is wider than the Kimber slide, maybe 1.1 inches for the H&K vs. 0.9 inches for the Kimber. The P2000sk gives you 9 + 1 rounds in .40 caliber, while the Kimber gives you 7+1 rounds in .45, if you use 7 round Wilson magazines.

    The Kimber would definitely have more holsters and other attachments available in the market than the H&K - there are quite a few 3 inch 1911s out there, and there are more things you can do to modify a 1911. I'm not sure what you could do to enhance the H&K.

    I still think it comes down to your caliber and trigger preferences - either gun would be easy to conceal because of small size and light weight. I have a 3 inch 1911 that I like (Colt Defender) and have thought about getting a P2000sk just for variety.

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    Another point in favor of the HK is that its controls are ambidextrous. I've found this helpful in IDPA practice, as it can be quite a trick to drop a mag, etc. with your weak hand when the controls on the pistol aren't made to make it easy.

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