Springfield Ultra Compact Question

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    Springfield Ultra Compact Question

    Ok I'm doing my research for a new 1911 carry weapon. I am a real big fan of the CCO style weapon (Commander barrel and Officers grip) but there not easy to find.

    So ya'al come up with suggestions that are under $1,000.00.

    I know of the Kimber Compact Stainless II, Colt Gunsite CCO (used if I can find one), STI (a little pricy) Springfield Ultra Compact (barrel is a full inch less than the Commander length so not really what I want).

    Ok so does anyone else have a suggestion for a 1911 with a 4" to 4.25" barrell and the Officers model grip (6 rounds) in 45ACP?

    Thanks ya'al.
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    i thing you hit most of the ones that make a cco style

    kimber does couldnt tell ya the model what about a combat master? from detonics

    can't say if those are under 1K or not

    Baer makes a stinger but its about 2K

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    Wow... You want a sweet gun... Lemme know when you get one and where it came from. I want one too!

    I have the colt officers and a Para P-12 and would like about a 1/2 - 1 inch longer barrel.
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    I haven't checked, so I could be wrong, but I thought Para did a CCO style.
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    Kimber CDP Compact

    The Kimber CDP Compact, with 4 inch barrel and officer's grip, fits your spec perfectly. It is set up for carry, with melt job, night sights, front strap checkering, etc.


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    I think there is a member here from my area and a STI dealer. I've heard good things about him. I'll try to find his name and send him an email.
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    Damn you all for continuing to post pictures of these gorgeous 1911s! How am I going to maintain my prejudice against them if you keep doing that!

    Good luck with the search, fed, and let us know what you end up with...
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    Thanks for the PM about this thread.

    First things first, not all 1911's are created equal. A good number of them use NOTHING but MIM parts. This NOT something you want in a 1911.

    The other issue is when you get into 1911's with 3" barrels they are even less reliable than a full framed 1911. This is of course a bad thing.

    For Commander type 1911's, look at STI, S&W and Springfield.


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    Thanks for the quick response C4. How's the STI compare to the S&W ? I shot a new S&W compact at a big box retailer and the recoil was miserable. I never classified myself as recoil sensitive but I just can't see buying a gun I hate to shoot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tapout1003 View Post
    Thanks for the quick response C4. How's the STI compare to the S&W ? I shot a new S&W compact at a big box retailer and the recoil was miserable. I never classified myself as recoil sensitive but I just can't see buying a gun I hate to shoot.
    The STI are one of the best out of the box 1911's made IMHO. They use very few MIM parts.

    The S&W represents a very good value and what a lot of people don't know about them is that they make frames for a lot of 1911 manufacturers.



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    STI is out....you missed the $1000 max. The Kimber CDP Compact is out for the same reason, its over 1K. S&W is out as they do not have one in their line nor (according to the email I received today) are they planning on one. Para does have one, but it's grip safety just isnt right so that would need to be changed. Finally the only commercial maker is Kimber and its the Kimber Compact Stainless II. Not a fan of stainless but I might just have to buy it and have it coated. Oh well thanks for the input guys.
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    Para CCW LDA

    A very slick shooter, the only thing I don'y like about it is the bobbed grip safety, but that can be remedied.

    If you don't want just stainless, spend a little over your limit and get the Compact CDP II, I had one and never should have sold it, but the smaller grip just wasn't working for me, that will save you the time it takes to have a gun refinished. If you add shipping and the refinishing, you may as well just by the CDP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fed_wif_a_sig View Post
    STI is out....you missed the $1000 max. The Kimber CDP Compact is out for the same reason, its over 1K. S&W is out as they do not have one in their line nor (according to the email I received today) are they planning on one. Para does have one, but it's grip safety just isnt right so that would need to be changed. Finally the only commercial maker is Kimber and its the Kimber Compact Stainless II. Not a fan of stainless but I might just have to buy it and have it coated. Oh well thanks for the input guys.
    I am not sure which STI your looking at, but the STI Escort is under $1k.



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    Gotta vote for the Kimber CDP. It will be at the upper end of your price range but you'll appreciate the carry-specific features, reliability, accuracy and overall quallity. I purchased my Ultra last year for $950 out the door. Prices have gone up since then, but you should still be able to get one in the $1k range.
    If not the CDP, check out their Compact and Ultra Carry models in the $800-$850 range. Some models even come with the Crimston Trace grips, if you fancy a laser.

    In addition to Kimber, the major manufacturers mentioned in this thread, such as Para and SA, build excellent firearms. And do not be scared off by the apocryphal tales of 3" 1911s not being reliable, should you wish to add them to your list for consideration. Find what fits you best!
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    I know they only have a 3" barrel but my Micro Compact Lt Wgt is more than accurate to 25 yds and at 22 oz's unloaded it's sweet to carry, my only complaint with it is no front strao checkering which makes it a little slippery in my arthritic hands but a new set of Pachmyer signature grips fixed that. And it LOOKS GOOD

    Edit to add it has a light rail on it / some like that some dont but it makes finding a holster a little harder.
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