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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike from Texas View Post
    Any particular reason you wouldn't just go with the Glock 29? It's a great weapon and very easily concealed. Custom guns are cool and all but just curious.
    If I were to go with a Glock, it'd be a Glock 20.

    That said, Glocks just don't do it for me. Something about the way they're shaped, the angle of the grip, feels weird in my hands.
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    I don't see any mention of EAA here. European American Armory has 10mm in both their full-sized and compact steel versions. IIRC srfl has a EAA in 10mm. He is a big 10mm fan and will probably post on this thread before the night is over.

    If you can find one I have to recommend the Smith&Wesson 1066 or 1076. They are outstanding firearms. I carry one everyday.
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    The 1006 intrigues me. Shame it's a single stack mag, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Geoff View Post
    The 1006 intrigues me. Shame it's a single stack mag, though.
    I like single stacks myself. My 1066 has 9+1.

    Just checked for the fun of it. The EAA Witness fullsize is 15+1 and the compact is 12+1.
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    Ok then. What's your opinion of the Witness guns? They just seem too good to be true; double stack, 10mm auto, 1911, for under $500 brand new MSRP? Something's not right...
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Geoff View Post
    Ok then. What's your opinion of the Witness guns? They just seem too good to be true; double stack, 10mm auto, 1911, for under $500 brand new MSRP? Something's not right...
    Everything I hear about them is good, but I do not own one. srfl has at least one Witness and I believe it is a 10mm. He has to travel sometimes with his job and isn't on for a day or so. Hopefully he will come in today and see this thread. You might want to drop him a PM. When I first got my 1066 he posted some info on my thread. We have discussed 10mm in the moderator area and by PM a couple of times. He will tell you about the Witness no doubt.

    I keep looking at the Witness in .38 Super because I want a .38 Super and like how the Witness looks and feels.
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    Hi there.

    I've owned a Witness 10mm (full-sized, steel frame blue) and traded it off like an idiot for an HK USP. I now have have a Witness .38 Super (full-sized, Wonderfinished) which is a wonderful gun in a great caliber....but it ain't no 10mm. Nonetheless, here she is:



    Witnesses are notoriously undersprung (14 Lbs). If you get one, get a set a Wolff springs (at least the 18 Lbs....but the 20 Lbs. would be better if you are firing a steady amount of full-power 10mm; I have no experience with their 22 Lbs. springs). I mated the 18 Lbs. springs to Alan Duggers' great Sprinco recoil reduction device ( http://www.sprinco.com/ ). The reduction in perceived recoil in adding this and the Wolff springs made for a wonderfully low-recoil-impulse 10mm....even with 135 to 165 grain Double Tap 10mm loads.

    Just to let you know, I did have a problem with my Witness 10mm, but it should have been a fixable problem; I haven't had the same issues with my Witness .38 Super. I posted those problems on 10mmTalk.com ( http://www.10mmtalk.com/index.php?sh...710&hl=witness )

    Here's Freakshow10mm's original Para-Ord conversion thread:
    http://www.combatcarry.com/vbulletin...t=witness+10mm

    Here's a response of a few months back by Robert Hunter, a 10mm conversion guru and gunsmith (and the same smith Freakshow10mm used to convert his Para-Ord), to my inquiry regarding converting those Tac-Forty Para-Ords:
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    I do not recommend doing a 10mm conversion on any LDA pistol. There's not enough frame rail on the right hand side of the gun.
    Also I would not use a PXT extractor gun for a 10mm conversion.
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    R E (Bob) Hunter
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    By the way, I also have a S&W 1006 and 1066. Those are outstanding 10mm guns. Change the springs out regularly, and I have no doubt they'll last past my lifetime even while fed with regular amounts of full-power 10mm.

    I really like 1911 10mm and own a Dan Wesson Patriot Experimental with a stainless frame and blued steel slide. Another 10mm winner in my book.

    I do need to add a couple of Glocks to my 10mm collection.

    Enjoy.
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