How Effective Is 9mm 124gr HP, on Bad Dog

How Effective Is 9mm 124gr HP, on Bad Dog

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    How Effective Is 9mm 124gr HP, on Bad Dog

    My wife and I frequently walk 4-5 miles in the woods and I usually carry a .357 Mag. 3" barrel Airweight revolver, and always felt it was enough to stop a aggressive dog.
    Recently I started carrying a Walther P99c in 9mm with Fed. HS 124 gr. hp's, and am curious as to how effective it would be against a aggressive dog or two.
    Several years ago my wife and I were on the middle of a frozen lake walking our 2 boxers, when 2 pit bulls came at us, I was able to kick and yell at them and they left, however, lucky for us they were not very aggressive other wise I would never have been able to stop them without shooting them.
    I am confident the .357 mag would stop a bad dog, but I am not sure of the 9mm?

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    Don't shoot them in the head. I knew a Sgt that ended up with fragments of a 124 gr 9mm Speer GD in his knee after his partner shot an attacking pitbull in the head on the roof of a housing project in the Bronx. The round ricocheted off of it's skull. I forget if the dog just took off running or if they continued to shoot.
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    Should work fine!
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    Yeah, should work fine, if it them at the right place.
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    Dogs can be tough, so be prepared to shoot again if necessary - and that's not just for 9mm.
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    A well placed round of any size will work fine, a poorly placed round of the biggest size (of commonly carried handgun calibers) won't work. Shot placement is key, especially with dogs. With that said a premium 9mm self defense round will work just fine.
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    It's like voting in Chicago...

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    I used 124gr +P and it worked as intended on a Rotweiler mix. I did use a follow up shot to end it. Side by side the .357 is a better thump.
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    Dogs come in different shapes and sizes. If you think threats from dogs are likely, I would suggest packing mace before you worry about calibers. Same goes for bear. Dogs and bear have good sniffers and mace works very well on sniffers.

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    As a dog lover, it pains me to think about it!
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    I had to shoot a German Shephard once. I used a J-Frame S&W and one Winchester 158 gr. SWCLHP. I shot him in the chest and he turned and ran about 70 yards before collapsing. Not a drop of blood anywhere or a visible entrance or exit wound.

    Since then I've taken to carrying Fed Labs MK-4 OC on my walks. I have sprayed 4 dogs with it and it stops them quicker than the .38 did, and hopefully educates them a little better.

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    My "Dog Arsenal" is this:

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    The firearm is last, as it should be. Personally, in most situations around here you are going to get bit. If I'm already getting bit I want to use the knife. It's messy and dirty, but it WORKS.

    The other reason I will go to the knife first, after Pepper Spray, is because I can show justification for what I was forced to do. I also need to worry about through and through shots, ricochets and missing my target. With Pepper Spray or a knife I have no such worries.

    Personally I would carry any well made SD Round in my firearm, but wouldn't count on it. Dogs can be very resiliant.

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    Was at a friends farm once, and while I was there his dog started chasing his grandfather on the tractor. Well the dog was very dumb, and the attachment on the tractor (some sort of thresher I think) was very very sharp, and moving very fast.

    Took the dog's head clean off and the thing kept running for about 50 yards or so. One of the creepiest things I have ever seen.

    Point is though that dogs will keep going unless they decide not to, and lots of times a would beleive that a bullet would be too slow to avoid injury. Pepper spray or those little siren alarms they sometimes give women instead of actual weapons, probally will work 99% of the time. For that 1% left, just remember, "when in doubt, empty it out."
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    Just make sure you're using the highest-capacity magazines, in case something like this happens:

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    hollow points?

    Just a thought. No personal experience here but it seems to me that hp expansion might be adversely affected by dog fur.
    You might consider something like Cor Bon Powr Ball for defense from furry creatures.

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