Awesome Revolver article

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    Thanks for the article. Like most things, there are strong points to be made for both the revolver and semi. I'm glad it isn't an either/or situation.

    Train with what you use and always carry a backup. That is when the semi and revolver make a great combination.

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    There are a few times that I'll grab the 2" snubbie, but I have autos of roughly the same size, so 99.9% of the time I'm going to have a auto on me. I will say my 4"- 686 S&W is one of the best shooting pistols I've ever picked up. If open carry were a option I might carry a revolver more often. I'll never disregard a person that is proficient with a revolver.

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    Liked it, opened my eyes a little, esp the one handed loading drill.

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    i agree with tangle, for the most part.

    but i argue that the logic of his reasoning dictates the only solution is to carry one of each. its unpredictable. its chaotic.

    you CAN hope to have the option. i like the semi for security if in a drawn out longer gun fight. but crimson trace on the 638, no throwing brass around, easier to get too, etc, the article speaks for itself.

    the first thing i go for when going out, is the 638, its what i consider the best, easily concealed, easily carried, guaranteed bang-bang out there.

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    I qualify with an autoloader, but teethed on wheelies, and still carry two of them off-duty.

    I have 11 rounds before my two wheelies are shot dry. After that I have to reload one. Guess what, if you train enough you CAN reload under fire.

    Tactics may be a little different with the wheelie though. However, you really aren't all that handicapped with a wheelie, IMHO. Look at all the people that pack a Compact 1911, or even a full size one for that matter. They don't have 10+ rounds in their magazines either.

    I don't dislike autoloaders, heck I own enough of them. I freely admit to carrying a wheelie for sentimental reasons. Back when men were men guns were made of blued steel and we held the door open for a lady, is my reason for packing a wheelie in today's PC world.

    Heck, I may even start packing a Colt Single Action Army. It sure didn't hinder Wyatt Earp when he went up against the Clantons.

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    Of course, the Clantons didn't have Glocks, either...
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    The article made some good points. Revolvers are move complicated than some pistols. I was looking at the exploded view of my Glock 23 and SP 101. The 101 has as many or more parts, springs, etc. The comment about similiar manual of arms is probably true as well as the ammo issue. Some pistols don't like certain ammo types, but if you are using the gun for SD you will figure that out ahead of time.

    All in all, I like revolvers and carry my SP101 around the house sometimes but a good semi is probably better in most situations.
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    You know, it's not that revolvers are bad. I carried one for a number of years. But things change. That's what happens.

    To me, the revolver is a viable BUG. However, in todays world, where the BG seems to have even less respect for life & ever increasing $$ through drugs or whatever, the need for a more modern weapon is definitely there, IMHO.

    You don't think with more states having shall issue laws on the logs, that the BG doesn't know that & so they double up (Or more) to combat that?

    Again, nothing against revolvers, but having been in a shooting, reloading's a damn hard thing to do when bullets are flying & you're hoping your cover is exactly that.

    Yes, with enough practice, I suppose you can learn to reload a revolver under extreme stress, & handle the longer, harder trigger pull. But why put yourself through that if you don't have to? Todays modern autos are smaller, relieable, & combat accurate.
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    Two additional pro-revolver points, esp when it comes to snubbys. One is that the addition of crimson trace grips has dramatically increased the hit potential of the short barrelled revolver even when point shooting. Second is the advent of 38 special ammo especifically designed for these guns such as the gold dot 135 grain plus p or the corbon dpx. With these developments I really think the snubby is more than just a 5 yard belly gun.

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    So once again it comes down to choosing equipment that you like and use well, then being aware of its strengths and its limitations. Astounding.

    For every "if this happens, gun X is at a disadvantage," there's a counterpoint. Use what you like and train to make it work as best you can under varying conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgentX View Post
    So once again it comes down to choosing equipment that you like and use well, then being aware of its strengths and its limitations. Astounding.

    For every "if this happens, gun X is at a disadvantage," there's a counterpoint. Use what you like and train to make it work as best you can under varying conditions.
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    Just for the sake of discussion, what would you think of someone that carried a 1911 (or any compact to full sized semi) with only 5 rounds in it because he believed that was enough to handle any SD situation he would face?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangle View Post
    Just for the sake of discussion, what would you think of someone that carried a 1911 (or any compact to full sized semi) with only 5 rounds in it because he believed that was enough to handle any SD situation he would face?
    That's sorta like leaving on a trip in the family vechicle with a half a tank of gas.

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    I own several of both; however I only carry what I have extensively trained with (P229 Equinox/S&W P340). Depending on my clothing I'd carry the P229 every time.

    FWIW, I enjoy this forum, in that it seems to not brand specific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangle View Post
    Just for the sake of discussion, what would you think of someone that carried a 1911 (or any compact to full sized semi) with only 5 rounds in it because he believed that was enough to handle any SD situation he would face?
    I appreciate "Just for the sake of discussion" instead of calling your way the way as alot of people do.

    So, just for the sake of discussion, I choose to carry a J-frame and I really try to never pass opinion on what, where, when and how people carry. I carry the J the most but also have the G27 option, so I am not against the semi-auto. The bottom line is I have over 20 years in the gun game. No one is aware of all of my combat experience, my instructor certifications, my skillset, my ability, and my proficiency.

    The one opinion I do express is that I have always advocated that CCW and LEO be extemely proficient in hand to hand and defensive tactics. I am more likely to confidantly go hands on with an adversary and use pain compliance to control a situation if I am in close quarters. It also reduces my liability in a confrontation or proves my escalation through the use of force continuum. If you just carry a gun and have none of these skills then I think you are severely lacking in warrior skills to survive a deadly threat encounter. A gun does not cure all, but may be needed to end all.

    To all I say that the first rule of a gunfight is to have your gun.

    End rant. Flame on.
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