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This is a discussion on Glock Slide Release Question within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Metro 40 I guess I'll have to be "inferior" then, because I'm 38 years old and have been dropping the slides on ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metro 40 View Post
    I guess I'll have to be "inferior" then, because I'm 38 years old and have been dropping the slides on 1911's, S&W's, Rugers and Glocks for years, using the inferior slide release. The slide release is in about the same location in all of those makes. I do not own any Sigs, so I don't worry about where the slide release on those pistols is at.

    I wonder if John Farnam (whoever that is) thinks the 1911 is an "inferior" weapon, due to the fine motor skill required to disengage the safety prior to shooting? I'd bet I could find a boatload of "experts" that disagree.

    Look bottom line. I'm not always right, you're not always right, blackhawk's not always right, no one is. But the mark of a man is admitting that there might be a better way, might be a faster way, might be a safer way of doing something. Even if one is 38 years old. Swallow your pride, and examine the evidence, then make a decision. If we allow ourselves to become hung up by emotions, we become no better than the antis who prey on that sort of stuff.

    That being said, the 1911 has a true slide release, ie it was designed to release and also to lock the slide. The glocks and XDs are designed to only lock the slide back.

    Do it how you want to do it. I'm no expert, but I will do it with my hand over the top of the slide. Works all the time every time and I don't miss under stress. One second can kill.......
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    Some of this is funny. I remember the first sig I shot. I slaped the mag in, pointed it down range and promptly wondered why the decocker wasn't making my slide slam home..... Never had that problem again.
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    You can also check Lone Wolf for the part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taurus111 View Post
    Look bottom line. I'm not always right, you're not always right, blackhawk's not always right, no one is. But the mark of a man is admitting that there might be a better way, might be a faster way, might be a safer way of doing something. Even if one is 38 years old. Swallow your pride, and examine the evidence, then make a decision. If we allow ourselves to become hung up by emotions, we become no better than the antis who prey on that sort of stuff.

    That being said, the 1911 has a true slide release, ie it was designed to release and also to lock the slide. The glocks and XDs are designed to only lock the slide back.

    Do it how you want to do it. I'm no expert, but I will do it with my hand over the top of the slide. Works all the time every time and I don't miss under stress. One second can kill.......
    Well now, this is funny!

    My whole point in my earlier post was that whichever method you use to drop the slide, that will be what you do in a gunfight. For me, there is NOT a better way to do it, there is NOT a faster way, and NOT a safer way for ME. Your experience may vary, and you should do what YOU feel comfortable with. I'm not sure what this "pride" is that you speak of, but I assure you that I don't have a T-Shirt that says "I drop the slide with the release, and your way sucks!"

    Seriously, amigo...it's not that deep. There are other gun-handling methods that are clearly inferior or superior to one another. This ain't one of them.

    Happy shooting, and stay safe!

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    O.K. we can agree to disagree. Both methods work, depending on the user and gun. We all need to make our own choices in tactics, training and use of firearms.
    there are drawbacks and points in favor and against either method. If you wish to expand on those thoughts go for it.
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    Might try some finger tip push-ups too.

    Just kidding... I pull the slide as a gross motor skill. I have short fingers that barely reach the slide release. If I use slide release, I use my off hand thumb.

    But I train just racking the slide so under stress I revert to how I train.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocky View Post
    O.K. we can agree to disagree. Both methods work, depending on the user and gun. We all need to make our own choices in tactics, training and use of firearms.
    there are drawbacks and points in favor and against either method. If you wish to expand on those thoughts go for it.
    Or go to this thread

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...ight=slingshot

    or do a search for any other numerous threads discussing this very argument, revive that dead horse, and then beat it some more.

    Good luck on getting your extended slide lock for your G36. I wonder if that would actually make it prone to snagging in your holster though? My kahr CW40 has been giving me some disapointment because the slide release on it is so darned fat that it is almost snagging in my holster. I would actually like to get an aftermarket release that is smaller for it.
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    My personal opinion is that the true and useful stuff has been said very well by Metro 40 and a couple of others in this and other similar threads. I just wanted to add in that people that teach the sling-shot method as the one, true answer have should try that with a Smith and Wesson 3rd generation auto or a Beretta 92. Then, you get to teach a whole, new malfunction drill...instead of tap, rack, bang (no, I hate "assess"), it is tap, rack, HUH?, tap, rack, HUH?....oh, yeah, the decocker, ******...BANG! ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonofASniper View Post

    Good luck on getting your extended slide lock for your G36. I wonder if that would actually make it prone to snagging in your holster though? My kahr CW40 has been giving me some disapointment because the slide release on it is so darned fat that it is almost snagging in my holster. I would actually like to get an aftermarket release that is smaller for it.
    I was just in the midst of training myself to NOT use the slide lock lever on my Glock 19 to release the slide when I bought a Kahr PM9. The PM9 just would NOT feed a round using the slingshot method. Then I read the manual (yeah, I know...RTFM) where it INSISTS you use the slide lock to release the slide.

    AAARRGH (slaps forehead). Now I have two different manuals of arms to learn and keep straight!

    If your CW40 is like my PM9, the slide release is not only fat - it's edges are SHARP! I'm tempted to take my dremel tool and soften those sharp edges, like Cylinder & Slide does on their PM9 Carry Package.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cockedlocked01 View Post
    In fact, the only gun I know where you SHOULD use the slide release, are the Kahrs.
    Howdy,
    I'm kinda new here. Can someone please clarify to me why using the slide release is so necessary on kahrs?
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    Cool may have over reacted

    Quote Originally Posted by Metro 40 View Post
    Well now, this is funny!

    My whole point in my earlier post was that whichever method you use to drop the slide, that will be what you do in a gunfight. For me, there is NOT a better way to do it, there is NOT a faster way, and NOT a safer way for ME. Your experience may vary, and you should do what YOU feel comfortable with. I'm not sure what this "pride" is that you speak of, but I assure you that I don't have a T-Shirt that says "I drop the slide with the release, and your way sucks!"

    Seriously, amigo...it's not that deep. There are other gun-handling methods that are clearly inferior or superior to one another. This ain't one of them.

    Happy shooting, and stay safe!

    Well I went back and re read what you had previously posted. I mace have made a snap decision. So I am swallowing MY pride and apologizing. You stay safe also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R3 View Post
    Howdy,
    I'm kinda new here. Can someone please clarify to me why using the slide release is so necessary on kahrs?
    Thanks,
    -R3
    I don't know why it is, but that's what the manual recommends. Before reading the manual (ahem) I tried the slingshot method and the slide just got stuck behind the top cartridge.

    The gun is so small, that it feels like the slide just doesn't move back very far. When you let go, it feels like it barely has any time to accelerate before coming into contact with and trying to strip off the top cartridge to feed into the chamber. Maybe using the slide release allows for more instant acceleration of the slide, overcoming friction, tension of the mag follower spring, etc. more readily.

    That's my layman's theory, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmarkob View Post
    I was just in the midst of training myself to NOT use the slide lock lever on my Glock 19 to release the slide when I bought a Kahr PM9. The PM9 just would NOT feed a round using the slingshot method. Then I read the manual (yeah, I know...RTFM) where it INSISTS you use the slide lock to release the slide.

    AAARRGH (slaps forehead). Now I have two different manuals of arms to learn and keep straight!

    If your CW40 is like my PM9, the slide release is not only fat - it's edges are SHARP! I'm tempted to take my dremel tool and soften those sharp edges, like Cylinder & Slide does on their PM9 Carry Package.
    That's why I only carry one type of semi-auto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taurus111 View Post
    Rob, totally agree with you there, about the 14s and it being a training issue. I used to have major problems (rookie stuff) with fine motor skills and being nervous on calls. Now I can do it under stress. But, I have been under stress several several several times and only after that could I do it. Look back and I bet you will see the same thing. How many gun fights do anyone get in. Hopefully not enough for them to become commonplace enough to get used to fighting the adrenaline rush that comes with it. That all I was trying to get at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmarkob View Post
    I don't know why it is, but that's what the manual recommends. Before reading the manual (ahem) I tried the slingshot method and the slide just got stuck behind the top cartridge.

    The gun is so small, that it feels like the slide just doesn't move back very far. When you let go, it feels like it barely has any time to accelerate before coming into contact with and trying to strip off the top cartridge to feed into the chamber. Maybe using the slide release allows for more instant acceleration of the slide, overcoming friction, tension of the mag follower spring, etc. more readily.

    That's my layman's theory, anyway.
    Or maybe the slide release tilts the follower and round slightly to feed the top round at a slightly different angle.
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