This is a discussion on Kahr QC? within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Kahr, like many companies with good customer relations, ALSO improve their guns. The later models usually don't have the problems of the older ones, so ...
July 9th, 2007 01:30 PM
Kahr, like many companies with good customer relations, ALSO improve their guns. The later models usually don't have the problems of the older ones, so chances are you may not have to experience their CR, unless it's a brand new model.
I have a later model PM9, & couldn't be happier. It's thin, small, accurate, & a great DAO trigger (If only it had a short re-set), & a full powered 9mm.
Break it in properly. Your best bet is to try to run all 200 rounds that day. Clean & lube it, if you have to, but try to run all 200 through. You'll actually feel & see the gun work better towards the later rounds (I'm not kidding, mine definitely got smoother).
As Sixto said, Kahrs are made to tight tolerances, & it needs a good & thorough break-in. Then run the ammo you'll actually use for CC, & you'll be good to go.
Last edited by cockedlocked01; July 9th, 2007 at 01:32 PM.
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July 9th, 2007 01:30 PM
July 9th, 2007 01:51 PM
July 9th, 2007 08:48 PM
Up until just recently, I would have reccommended the Kahr guns, staying away from the PM models, particularly in 40. However, last month a shooting buddy bought a P9 (just like the one I carry), and is now on its second go round with customer service due to light hits on the primers.
July 9th, 2007 09:08 PM
I have a K9 that I've had for about 3 years. I had a few FTRB's in the first 200 rounds, but I was using Remington bulk ammo, which turned out not to be the best choice. Since that, I'm now up to 1200 rounds through the pistol and haven't had a failure since using WWB or S&B at the range. I have tried 115, 124, 147 HP and FMJ through it and it all seems to feed well. I haven't gone over 200 rounds at the range in one sitting, but even after 200 rounds, it seems to still be functioning well. If I get another 9mm, it will be the T9. What I'd really like to see is an all steel single stack .45 from Kahr...maybe call it a T45? Kahr are you listening?
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July 10th, 2007 10:26 AM
You NEVER hear of any rumored problems from the steel-framed Kahrs. My K40 & T9 have been flawless. The rumor issues all seem to increase when polymer is combined with larger calibers (.40 S&W +) on smaller frame sizes. As with any autoloader, the smaller the package...the more likely the problem.
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July 10th, 2007 10:43 AM
This also points to shooter error too. We all know that the smaller/lighter the gun and the more powerful ammo is more prone to shooter error. To be fair, this can also mean design flaw as well.
Originally Posted by ghost tracker
Thats why I chose to stick with the PM9 over the 40.
I have heard of, but not seen first hand, people who have taken apart a P9 beyond their knowledge only to put it back together and have light primer strikes.
July 10th, 2007 10:46 AM
July 10th, 2007 01:06 PM
My P40 has been great ... about 3,000 rounds through it. I read about the 'horror stories' from time to time but my P40 has been as reliable as my Glocks and it is my primary carry piece.
My secondary is a Kimber Tac II ... and the 'net is full of Kimber horror stories as well. Guess what? My Kimber is also as reliable as my Glocks.
July 10th, 2007 01:45 PM
Kahr has had some QC issues , some due to Kahr , and some due to a suppler ( the whole peening issue on at least 4 models ) . Now since the little pm series took the brunt of the internet criticizim and i own one , i have kinda took the time to look into some complaints , IMHO if you get a pm that is serialed ab or later you will have no problems that are not user induced . Remember Kahr is a real young design in the scheme of things teething issues are to be expected . I personaly normaly carry Kahr plastic pistols over others i have including browning hp , sig sauer , detonics , cz , s&w , HK , ect.. they offer me the compact/rust resistant formfactor i want with reliability , and the accuracy i actualy need for ccw .
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