Bond Arms Texas Defender
This is a discussion on Bond Arms Texas Defender within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I've been looking at getting a derringer; a Texas Defender by Bond Arms with the 45 Colt/.410 Shot Shell barrel. I've tried searching the forums ...
July 9th, 2007 01:38 AM
Bond Arms Texas Defender
I've been looking at getting a derringer; a Texas Defender by Bond Arms with the 45 Colt/.410 Shot Shell barrel. I've tried searching the forums to see if any other members had said anything about it but I didn't find anything.
It's the third gun on this page: http://www.bondarms.com/ifirearms.htm
I figure it would make a good younger brother for my .357 magnum I have. I've wanted a large caliber, small gun and even though its only two shots I think this is what I've been looking for. I can't find many reviews on it (but those that I have found seemed good).
Anyone here have any opinions or information on this guy?
July 9th, 2007 02:08 AM
Have you held one yet?
I did research on them. They are cool and built to last. However, I was suprized by how small they weren't. I held it next to a J frame at the store...not too much difference.
It would be fun to try shooting the .45/.410 just for fun. The interchangable barrels is pretty slick.
Try a search in here on them too.
July 9th, 2007 02:21 AM
Also slightly heavier than an anvil. Nice toy, but not very practical.
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July 9th, 2007 11:38 AM
I have shot one in 38/357 & didn't really care for it much. Felt like it had a 15lb trigger on it.
To me a horrible trigger & a very small package was not very pleasant to shot. Much less hit anything over 10ft away.
July 9th, 2007 11:42 AM
When I held one at the store I couldn't get a good grip on it.
The size is still what blew me away. I was thinking about it for a boot gun. That thing would have been an boot weight.
July 9th, 2007 12:34 PM
I recently looked at a snake slayer they had in stock at sportsman's warehouse and I was surprised at its size and weight. It was just about as big a a ruger sp101 and just as heavy.
I would much rather have 5 shots of .357mag over two of .45LC or even .410.
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July 9th, 2007 01:13 PM
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FWIW, an episode of Shooting U.S.A. on the Outdoor Channel a couple of weeks ago featured exhibition shooter Bob Munden hitting a pepper popper target at 75 yards with a Bond Arms derringer in .45 Colt.
I've seen Munden shoot, so I don't doubt this was real.
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July 9th, 2007 01:51 PM
Just my opinion after giving it all more thought that the Derringer is a firearm style that has pretty much seen its day.
It falls short ergonomically, in capacity, and in any substantial caliber weight.
You only get two bangs for the clunky weight.
For a belly-button last ditch firearm a person would probably be equally as served with 5 or 6 .380 in a lighter package and with a fast magazine change double that capacity in a hurry.
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July 9th, 2007 06:31 PM
I carry a NAA .22 as a last resort weapon. Light weight , 5 shots still have longer range than fists and feet.
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July 9th, 2007 06:58 PM
It might be fun to have just because it is what it is, but there is a lot of better options out there for a BUG.
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July 9th, 2007 11:59 PM
I have the American Derringer that I only use as a snake gun with .410.
July 10th, 2007 12:19 AM
I have a Bond Arms Texas Defender in .45 ACP. Fits good in front pants pocket. No problem in holding it. But it sure lets you know when you pull the trigger. It does have a hard trigger pull.
July 10th, 2007 12:53 AM
I had the American Derringer in 38/357 for all of one week. There was nothing pleasant about it, and for the weight and cost, there was better options available.
July 10th, 2007 12:54 AM
Originally Posted by zero
Built to last.
Variety is good.
Weigh as much as loaded full-size pistols.
Hella fun but you'll feel it the next day.
Only 2 shots, so they'd better count. Not easy with small grips and a lot of kick.
The .45/.410 is good to carry if you're worried about snakes & such (#12 shot) or the larger members of the canine & feline families or the smaller members of large predators (00 buck). Bigger targets will require 00 buck at the minimum, most likely well-placed slugs. Accuracy takes lots of practice, and even then, you'll see your background danger zone as a much wider cone.
The biggest effect is visual. If a bad guy is looking at such a stout piece of steel and can clearly see the end of a 3" .410 shell, you're much more likely to have a clean ending.
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July 10th, 2007 04:45 PM
I built a .410 derringer from a kit offered by Et Cetera, LLC. It was about $30 and some time to machine a few parts. It provided a few laughs but I never carry it or shoot it anymore. You can pick one up made by FMJ, cobray, et cetera on gunbroker for $100. It is as large as my S&W 637 so I do not think of it as a small derringer. More like a pocket shotgun. I can get some pictures if you are interested.
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